Gravitational Forces between three stars

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The problem involves three stars, each with the mass and radius of the sun, positioned at the vertices of an equilateral triangle with sides measuring 5.0 x 10^9 m. The stars are released from rest, and the question seeks to determine their speeds as they converge at the center.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of acceleration, with one questioning if it is uniform. Another participant suggests that the gravitational forces must be accounted for as the stars accelerate towards each other, indicating a need for deeper analysis.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of conservation of energy principles, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or interpretation of the problem.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of gravitational interactions and energy conservation, with some expressing uncertainty about the implications of non-uniform acceleration and the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


Three stars, each with the mass and radius of our sun, form an equilateral triangle 5.0*10^9m on a side. If all three are simultaneously released from rest, what are their speeds as they crash together in the center?

Homework Equations


Fg= GMm/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution


It says the three stars are released from rest and start accelerating towards each other, so I'm assuming there is no centripetal acceleration (?). So I set 2Fgcos30 equal to ma and solved for a, which equals 9.2. Then I plugged it into the v = (2as)^(1/2) formula with s=2.89*10^9m being the midpoint of the circle using trig. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

The given answer in the book is 3.71*10^5m/s
 
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Is the acceleration uniform?
 
I'm not sure, but if it wasn't.. you would have to account for stuff I feel like is impossible, like accounting for the increase in gravitational forces as the stars accelerate towards each other...
 
That is what you need to do. I wouldn't say it is impossible, just needs a little more thought.
 
To solve this problem, you need to start out with the basic equation of conservation of energy, as this is an energy problem.So the gravitational potential energy equation is given by Ue = G M1*M2/R

Kinetic energy is K = 1/2 M V^2

We need to calculate the gravitational potential energy for one of the masses, since the equations of motion for one of them is the same for the other two.

So since G is just the constant, leave it be...M1 can be equated as the other two masses, so 2*mass of sun, then M2 is the mass of the current sun at hand, so M1 = mass of sun. R is going to be the Rcos30 value as we are only concerned with that particular component.

So once you calculate your gravitational potential energy...I got something around 1.22*10^41 or so...there is a negative sign as it indicates direction. Then set that equal to the kinetic energy, 1/2mV^2, and solve for V.
 

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