Gravitational Potential Energy, Elastic Potential Energy, and Kinetic Energy

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of gravitational potential energy, elastic potential energy, and kinetic energy, specifically in the context of a mass being released from a compressed spring. The original poster presents a scenario involving a 4.0 kg mass compressed on a vertical spring with a specific spring constant and seeks to determine the kinetic energy of the mass upon release.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of energy principle to relate the energies involved. They express concern about the use of variables for displacement and height, questioning whether their definitions are appropriate given the vertical nature of the spring.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in clarifying the relationship between displacement from the spring's equilibrium position and the change in height. Some guidance has been provided regarding the definitions of the variables involved, and there is an acknowledgment of the importance of understanding these relationships in the context of gravitational effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves a vertical spring and uniform gravitational acceleration, which may influence the interpretation of the variables used in the energy equations.

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Homework Statement



A 4.0 kg mass is pressed down on a vertical spring of spring constant 400 N/m, compressing it to 0.250 m. After it is released, the amount of kinetic energy this mass would have when it leaves the spring is ___.

Homework Equations



mgy(final) + 1/2 kx^2 (final) + 1/2 mv^2 (final) = mgy (initial) + 1/2kx^2 (initial) + 1/2 mv^2 (initial)

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so I think what I'm solving for is 1/2 mv^2 (final)

(4.0 kg)(9.8m/s^2)(0m) + 1/2 (400 N/m)(0m)^2 + 1/2(4.0 kg)(v)^2 = (4.0 kg)(9.8 m/s^2)(-0.250 m) + 1/2(400 N/m)(-0.250m)^2 + 1/2(4.0 kg)(0 m/s)^2

That was sort of long so to simplify it a bit:

1/2(4.0 kg)(v)^2 = (4.0 kg)(9.8m/s^2)(-.250m) + 1/2(400 N/m)(-0.250m)^2 + 1/2(4.0 kg)(0 m/s)^2

My main concern: My "x" and "y" are the same. Is that because it's a vertical spring? I'm calling the end of the release x=0 m and y=0 m and the compression -0.250 m.
 
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you have done it all correctly. Technically speaking, x is the displacement from the equilibrium point. So you can think of it as Δx = x2-x1, where the x1 is the equilibrium point. We also know that the displacement Δx is purely vertical, so what is the (nice and simple) relationship between Δx and Δh?
 
Ok, so Δx and Δh in this case are the same; that makes sense.
 
yep, that's right. Often you'll find that its the change in height that is important in questions with uniform gravity.
 

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