Gravitational potential energy = kinetic energy question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy in the context of a bobsled's motion as it descends a height. The original poster is uncertain about their calculations regarding the speed of the bobsled after descending a height of 3m.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the principle of energy conservation by equating potential energy and kinetic energy but questions the validity of adding the initial speed to the calculated speed. Some participants suggest using a more general form of mechanical energy conservation.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some providing guidance on using the conservation of mechanical energy. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the correct application of energy principles, and while one participant confirms an approach, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer.

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The original poster mentions that they do not have access to answers for their revision questions, which may influence their confidence in the correctness of their approach.

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Hi

I'm just going over some revision questions and there's this one question where I'm not sure if my working is correct (we don't get given the answers).

Homework Statement


A bobsled is moving at 3m/s as it passes a timing location. It then descends through a height of 3m before passing the next timing location. Assuming that friction and air resistance can be neglected, what is the speed of the bobsled as it passes the second timing location

2. The attempt at a solution

Ep=Ek
mgh=1/2mv2
v2=2gh

v=7.668m/s

Speed of bobsled passing second timing location = 3 + 7.668 = 10m/s

I'm not too sure if it is right to add 'v' with the initial speed of 3m/s. If anyone can clarify this for me that would be great.

thanks!
 
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vf_one said:
I'm not too sure if it is right to add 'v' with the initial speed of 3m/s.
No, it's not correct.

Instead of using Ep = Ek, use the more general version of mechanical energy conservation:
Ep1 + Ek1 = Ep2 + Ek2
 
Hey Doc_Al

Thanks for your help :biggrin:

So would this be correct then?

Ep1+Ek1 = Ek2 + Ep2

1/2 x 32 + 9.8 x 3 = 1/2 x v2
v = 8.2m/s
 
vf_one said:
So would this be correct then?

Ep1+Ek1 = Ek2 + Ep2

1/2 x 32 + 9.8 x 3 = 1/2 x v2
v = 8.2m/s
Exactly! :approve:
 
Thank you so much for your help! :shy:
 

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