Gravity at the bottom of a mineshaft

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The discussion revolves around the gravitational acceleration measured at the bottom of a mineshaft, which is reported to be higher than that at the surface. The original poster attempts to demonstrate that this observation implies the density of the Earth's crust is less than two-thirds of the mean density of the Earth. The subject area includes gravitational physics and density functions related to Earth's structure.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of gravitational acceleration at different depths and question the assumptions regarding density as a function of distance from the Earth's center. There are attempts to relate the density of the crust to gravitational effects and to utilize Newton's shell theorem in the analysis.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the application of Newton's shell theorem and the mathematical relationships involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation of gravitational acceleration and the implications of density variations, but no consensus or resolution has been reached.

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Participants express uncertainty about quantifying the relationship between density and gravitational acceleration, and there is acknowledgment of the challenge posed by the problem's complexity. The original poster notes the daunting nature of the question as it lacks specific steps, indicating a learning context.

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Homework Statement


The value of g measured at the bottom of a mineshaft is higher than that measured at the surface. Show that this implies the density of the Earth’s crust is less than 2/3 that of the mean density of the Earth.


Homework Equations


g(r) = -GM(r)/r^2
G = 6.67384 × 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2

The Attempt at a Solution



I started by showing that at a mineshaft depth of around 3500m, if the density of the Earth was constant from surface to center, then the formula for g would be g(r) = 4/3 Pi G ρ r
where ρ is the density of the earth, and r is the distance from the center to the point of measurement.

Using a measurement of the radius of the Earth of 6400km, g at the bottom of the shaft would be 0.055% smaller than on the surface. We know, however, that it is greater.

I'm unsure as to how it would be shown that the density of the crust is less 2/3 than that of the mean. Assumptions may have to be made.

Thanks in advance for any help! :)
 
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The only assumption you need to make is that density is a function of distance from the center of the Earth.
 
Thanks DH :), I don't understand how I would get to an answer of 2/3 using that assumption, however?
 
Find the gradient of gravitation acceleration with respect to radial distance, ##\frac{dg(r)}{dr}##.

Newton's shell theorem may be of assistance. Note: Does this theorem apply with a non-constant density? Under what conditions does this theorem apply?
 
I've been given this question as an example of what I'll be facing next year. It's really daunting not having questions with specific steps for the first time!

I was thinking that I would have to somehow show that at a limit near to 2/3, there is a point where the Earth's crust above is much lighter than the Earth's magma below, and so the weight increases, because you're getting closer to "more mass".

I think I'm out of my depth, because I have no idea how to quantify any of this, or what finding the gravitation acceleration with respect to radial distance will do to help! Really sorry for my stupidity :/
 
Let's look at this problem from the perspective of Newton's shell theorem. A spherical shell of constant density looks just like a point mass to points outside the shell. To points inside the shell, the shell of matter results in zero gravitational acceleration. What this means is that for a point inside a planet whose density is a function of distance only, it's only the mass closer to the center than the point in question that counts. All of the mass outside: No effect. In other words,
g(r) = \frac {G M(r)}{r^2}
where ##M(r)## is the mass of that part of the planet that is at a distance ##r## from the center of the planet or less.

Differentiating with respect to ##r## yields
\frac{dg(r)}{dr} = \frac{G}{r^2}\frac {dM(r)}{dr} - 2\frac {G M(r)}{r^3}
Let's look at two ways to express this inner mass M(r). One is via the average density ##\bar{\rho}(r)##: ##M(r) = V(r)\bar{\rho}(r) = \frac 4 3 \pi r^3 \bar{\rho}(r)##. The other is to integrate density from the center on outward, ##M(r) = \int_0^r 4\pi \xi^2 \rho(\xi) d\xi##.

What does the fundamental theorem of calculus say about the second form and ##\frac {dM(r)}{dr}##?
What does this mean with regard to ##\frac{dg(r)}{dr}##?
 

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