Green's Functions & Density of States

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Green's Functions in the context of the time-independent Schrödinger equation, particularly focusing on their mathematical formulation and implications for the density of states. Participants explore the relationship between energy variables and the derivation of imaginary components in Green's Functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the energies E and e(k) are equivalent for a free particle, suggesting a potential issue with the denominator in the Green's Function expression.
  • Another participant clarifies that while e(k) corresponds to a specific energy value, E can take on a range of values, including complex ones, drawing an analogy to classical harmonic oscillators.
  • A participant introduces the concept of the Cauchy principal value (P) in relation to the Green's Function's imaginary part.
  • There is a request for clarification on how the imaginary part of the Green's Function is derived, indicating a lack of understanding among some participants.
  • One participant presents a mathematical expression involving limits and asks others to consider its implications for the Dirac delta function.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the relationship between the presented mathematical expression and the delta function, indicating a need for further explanation.
  • A suggestion is made to analyze the limit as a parameter approaches zero and to compute integrals related to the expression to gain insight.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the derivation of the imaginary part of the Green's Function or its connection to the delta function, indicating ongoing uncertainty and exploration of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the mathematical steps involved in deriving the imaginary part of the Green's Function and its implications for the density of states. There is also a lack of clarity regarding the definitions and roles of the variables involved.

Master J
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After a fruitless search for a good undergraduate resource for Green's Functions (Economou's book is far too advanced for an intro course) , I hope someone here can clear this up.


So I have the Greens Functions (gf) for the time independent Schrödinger equation:

SUM |a><a| / (E - e(k)) where |a> form an orthonormal basis, e(k) is the particle energy. First off, for a free particle, E and e(k) are the same thing are they not? h^2.k^2/2m , so is the denominator not just zero, or is there a subtle meaning here?


Now, the more interesting part. Ok, so I have found some notes, but unfortunately they don't explain what is going on:

It takes the adove gf and adds an imaginary part to the denominator, and takes the limit that this imaginary parts goes to zero...then we get:


P ( 1 / E - e(k) ) + i(pi) DELTA( E - e(k))

where delta is the Dirac Delta function. What is this P? And how is this so? Is it just a mathematical relation??


And finally, I see that the density of states follows from this, but how is it motivated?? The result is just stated.
 
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Master J said:
First off, for a free particle, E and e(k) are the same thing are they not? h^2.k^2/2m , so is the denominator not just zero, or is there a subtle meaning here?

No, e(k)=h^2.k^2/2m, but E is a variable which may take on any value, positive or negative (or even complex).
Think of a classical harmonic oscillator. There e(k) would correspond to the eigenfrequency of the oscillator omega_0 while E would correspond to an external driving perturbation which may oscillate with any frequency omega. The case E=e(k) would mean that the external perturbation is in resonance with some eigenfrequency of the system.
 
Thanks DrDu, I see that now. I see its similar to the way the gf reflects dispersion in the driven wave equation.

Any help with the next part? I don't know where or how the imaginary part is derived
 
\frac{1}{x+i\eta} = \frac{x}{x^{2}+\eta^{2}} - i\frac{\eta}{x^{2}+\eta^{2}}

Can you convince yourself that \frac{\eta}{x^{2}+\eta^{2}} is pi times the delta function?
 
Sorry, no, I can't see that at all...:confused:
 
Try thinking about the limit as \eta \rightarrow 0. In particular, check what happens for x = 0 versus x \neq 0. Also, try computing the integral of \frac{\eta}{x^2+\eta^2} over all x.
 

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