Gross Tel Aviv perspective on string

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The discussion centers around David Gross's concluding talk at a string theory conference in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, focusing on the current state of string theory, its public perception, and related concepts such as the anthropic principle and supersymmetry. Participants explore various perspectives on the implications of Gross's remarks and the challenges facing string theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • David Gross expressed a belief in the "sexiness" of string theory but acknowledged a decline in optimism compared to 20 years ago, citing a lack of a fundamental dynamical principle as a major failure.
  • Some participants question the viability of the anthropic principle, suggesting it cannot be falsified and may not align with a fundamental dynamical structure principle.
  • There is a discussion about the role of gauge theory, with some participants noting its resilience and questioning the reliance on string theory techniques.
  • One participant highlighted the need for a model that can effectively address dynamics in string theory, while others pointed out the lack of experimental support for both supersymmetry and string theory.
  • Concerns were raised about the terminology used in physics, particularly the use of "sexy" to describe theories, with some participants suggesting it may reflect a gender bias in the field.
  • Several participants shared technical issues regarding accessing the conference videos, indicating that different browsers may yield different results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the implications of Gross's talk, particularly regarding the anthropic principle and the status of string theory and supersymmetry. There is no clear consensus, as some participants defend the anthropic principle while others challenge its validity.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the speculative nature of certain ideas discussed, such as background independent models and the anthropic principle, highlighting the ongoing uncertainty in the field. The discussion also reflects a tension between theoretical aspirations and the lack of experimental evidence supporting string theory and supersymmetry.

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This discussion may be of interest to those engaged in theoretical physics, particularly in the fields of string theory, cosmology, and the philosophy of science, as well as individuals curious about the current debates surrounding these topics.

  • #31
SuSy loses its luster if its not found at LHC. It might exist at any scale thereafter, but no one really cares unless you do quantum gravity.

Meanwhile, the hierarchy problem will remain the fundamental current theoretical problem of physics (as it has been for the last twenty years), barring something unexpected happening at the LHC.

If it turns out that it is the hierarchy fact, I absolutely guarantee anthropic reasoning will start to become much more prevalent
 
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  • #32
Well, all the hierarchy is about, is to keep the higgs from divergences. The closer to the electroweak scale you get to stop it, the less fine-tuning you need.

My old point is that if the higgs, whatever it is, could be coupled to the QCD string, then the number of bosonic couplings exactly cancels the fermionic ones.
 

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