Group isomorphisms and bijective maps

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The discussion revolves around the concept of group isomorphisms and the conditions under which a bijective map between two groups preserves the group combination law. Participants explore definitions, examples, and implications of isomorphisms in group theory, with a focus on theoretical aspects relevant to a group theory course.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of "preserving the combination law" in the context of isomorphisms and whether any bijection would suffice for this preservation.
  • Another participant clarifies that a map preserving the group structure is called a homomorphism, which must satisfy the condition f(ab) = f(a)f(b) for all elements a, b in the group.
  • Examples are provided to illustrate that not all bijections preserve the group law, such as a specific bijection defined on the set {0,1,2,3} with addition modulo 4.
  • Further examples of bijections that do not preserve the group law are discussed, including a function defined on the integers that is not surjective.
  • Participants note that there can be multiple bijections that serve as isomorphisms between two groups, and mention the concept of automorphisms, where a group can be isomorphic to itself in different ways.
  • It is pointed out that groups can be characterized "up to isomorphism," meaning that different constructions can yield isomorphic groups that are not identical in structure.

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Participants generally agree on the definition of isomorphisms and the necessity of preserving the group law, but there is no consensus on the uniqueness of bijections that can serve as isomorphisms between two groups. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints and examples that illustrate different aspects of the topic.

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Some examples provided highlight limitations, such as the necessity for bijections to be surjective and the implications of group identity elements in the context of isomorphisms. The discussion also touches on the complexity of defining groups through generators and relations.

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Im taking a group theory course at the moment in my third year of a theoretical physics degree. In my textbook the author says defines an isomorphism by saying that if two groups are isomorphic then their elements can be put in a one-to-one correspondence that preserves the group combination law. My question is: what exactly does "preserving the combination law" mean and would any bijection do that?

My understanding of preserving the combination law is as follows. Consider 2 groups of order k. G1 ={e1, n1,...n(k-1)} & G2 = {e2, m1,...,m(k-1)}

let i be some map between them such that i(n1)=m3, i(n2) = m1, i(n3)=m6.

say the group combination law for G1 gives the following n1*n2=n3

then for i to be an isomorphism would it have to be the case that the combination law for G2 is m3*m1=m6?

and is there then only one bijection for which this is an isomorphism between G1 and G2?
 
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What is meant under the "combination law" is that the mapping "preserves" the group structure in some way, i.e. a map which preserves it is called a homomorphism (that is, if f : G1 --> G2 is a map such that for all a, b in G1 we have f(ab)=f(a)f(b)). It need not be bijective in general, but if it happens to be, it's called an isomorphism.
 
fa2209 said:
would any bijection do that?
No. As an example, consider the set {0,1,2,3} with addition modulo 4 (for example, 3+2=1), and the bijection f defined by

f(0)=1
f(1)=2
f(2)=0
f(3)=3

f(2+1)=f(3)=3
f(2)+f(1)=0+2=2.
 
Or, for example, the bijection f : Z --> Z defined on the group of integers (with addition as the group operation) with f(x) = 2x + 3.
 
preserving the group law just means

f(xy) = f(x)f(y)

For example the group Z/2Z has two elements 0 and 1 with the group law 1 + 1 = 0

The matrix that rotates the plane 180 degrees generates a group with 2 elements, itself and the rotation of 360 degrees. Map 1 to the 180 degree rotation and zero to the identity map. This is a bijection that preserves the group law.

On the other hand you could have mapped 1 to the reflection about the y-axis to get an isomorphism of Z/2Z with another group of isometries of the plane.
 
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radou said:
Or, for example, the bijection f : Z --> Z defined on the group of integers (with addition as the group operation) with f(x) = 2x + 3.
That function isn't surjective. For example 6 isn't in its range.

However, since the condition f(xy)=f(x)f(y) implies f(e)=e', where e and e' are the identity elements of the groups, a bijection that doesn't satisfy that condition can't be an isomorphism. This means that the f:Z→Z defined by f(x)=x+1 is a bijection that isn't an isomorphism.
 
Fredrik said:
That function isn't surjective. For example 6 isn't in its range.

However, since the condition f(xy)=f(x)f(y) implies f(e)=e', where e and e' are the identity elements of the groups, a bijection that doesn't satisfy that condition can't be an isomorphism. This means that the f:Z→Z defined by f(x)=x+1 is a bijection that isn't an isomorphism.

Ah, stupid me! Yes, to correct the example, it would be a bijection if we were talking about the rationals under addition. Of course, not homomorphic since f(0) = 3.
 
fa2209 said:
and is there then only one bijection for which this is an isomorphism between G1 and G2?

no, usually not. for example, we can take G1 = G2, and have an isomorphism of G1 with itself. such an isomorphism is called an automorphism.

for example, one important automorphism of (C,+) is complex conjugation (which is also an automorphism of the multiplicative group of non-zero complex numbers).

a vector space V is an abelian group, and any linear transformation which is invertible:

T:V-->V gives rise to an automorphism of the underlying abelian group of V.

this is because for some groups, different ways of "building the group" can result in the same set.

it doesn't matter if we create a rotation group by starting with a 90 degree counterclockwise rotation, or a 270 degree counterclockwise rotation, we wind up with the same set of 4 rotations in either scenario.

so if a group is defined by specifying some generators and relations between them, there are often many ways to do this that winds up producing the same group. because of this, groups are usually only characterized "up to isomorphism", isomorphic groups being regarded as "essentially the same". they need not actually BE the same, for example, the set of complex numbers {1,i,-1,-i} under complex multiplication, and the set of integers modulo 4 under addition modulo 4, {0,1,2,3} aren't "the same thing" but they ARE isomorphic, with the isomorphism being:

k<-->exp(ikπ/2)
 

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