Was a Gun T-Shirt Really a Security Risk?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived security risks associated with wearing a t-shirt featuring a cartoon gun, particularly in the context of air travel and security regulations. Participants share their experiences and opinions on the absurdity of such restrictions, touching on broader themes of common sense and the impact of regulations on personal freedoms.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disbelief at the notion that a cartoon gun on a t-shirt could pose a security risk, questioning the logic behind such regulations.
  • Others share personal anecdotes about similar experiences with clothing restrictions, such as being prohibited from wearing certain shirts in school due to specific words.
  • A participant recounts a humorous TSA incident involving a congressional medal of honor being mistaken for a weapon, suggesting inconsistency in security enforcement.
  • Some comments reflect frustration with the perceived overreach of security measures and the impact on personal expression.
  • There are mentions of both positive and negative experiences with TSA agents, highlighting variability in their behavior and attitudes during security checks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the absurdity of the situation regarding the t-shirt, but there is no consensus on the underlying reasons for such security measures or the effectiveness of TSA protocols.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various personal experiences and anecdotes, which may not represent a comprehensive view of security practices. The discussion includes subjective interpretations of regulations and individual reactions to them.

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Gun T-Shirt was a "security risk"

Words fail me...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7431640.stm
The Obituary of Common Sense.

We mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who was with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm, life isn't always fair, and "maybe it was my fault".
His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place and when criminals started receiving better treatment than their victims. He lost the will to live shortly after one could no longer defend oneself from burglars
in one's own home without running the risk of being sued for assault and had a tremendously tough time shortly after people stopped realising that steaming cups of coffee are hot and will burn you when spilled.
When settlements started being handed down in favour of such evolutionary handicapped people as those "attempting to stop blade with hand", Common Sense could bear it no longer and died of a broken heart.
He is survived by three stepbrothers; "I Know My Rights", "Someone Else is to Blame", and "I'm A Victim".
 
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That's it, I've had enough of stupid people. I'm moving to St. Kilda
 
I remember in elementary school we weren't allowed to wear billabong shirts because of the word bong within the word billabong. Not being allowed on an airplane for shirt with cartoon gun on it... wow. I could *almost* understand if it was a picture of a plane blowing up. But uhh...
 
matthyaouw said:
That's it, I've had enough of stupid people. I'm moving to St. Kilda

Not far enough, I'm moving to a moon base, just need a little more funding to get the project under way...

Wow moose, that is so sad. I got away with making smoking pipes in sculpture class... IN THE NORTH GA MOUNTAINS! Haha! I can't believe I actually made and fired them! The administration would have crucified me (no religious pun intended :wink:) had I been caught...
 
moose said:
I remember in elementary school we weren't allowed to wear billabong shirts because of the word bong within the word billabong. Not being allowed on an airplane for shirt with cartoon gun on it... wow. I could *almost* understand if it was a picture of a plane blowing up. But uhh...

And it wasn't even Southwest this time. :rolleyes:
 
It was first reported on theregister where a very nerdy member pointed out that the transformer in question is optimus prime - one of the good guy transformers.

My favourite TSA moron story is still taking the 'ninja throwing star' off a pasenger.
The fact the throwing star was a congressional medal of honor and the passenger was wearing a general's uniform didn't deter him.
 
mgb_phys said:
It was first reported on theregister where a very nerdy member pointed out that the transformer in question is optimus prime - one of the good guy transformers.

My favourite TSA moron story is still taking the 'ninja throwing star' off a pasenger.
The fact the throwing star was a congressional medal of honor and the passenger was wearing a general's uniform didn't deter him.

:smile: I hadn't heard that one yet. I wonder if these incidents happen with new trainees who are over-zealous in performing their job, or if these people really have stayed on the job that long being morons.

In contrast, while stuck in an overly long security line in AZ (because the airport is designed like crap forcing everyone changing terminals for connecting flights to go back through security rather than being transported through secure areas), one of the TSA agents there was hilarious. He was trying to get everyone to get ready before going through security so the line would move faster, so was going through all the obvious stuff like only being allowed liquids, gels and pastes in 3.4 oz or 100 ml or less in a 1 qt bag, and yes, toothepaste is a paste, it says so right in the name, and if you didn't have a bag, one would be provided for you for free so get one, etc., and then said something like, "If you hold up the line because you didn't listen to what I just told you, you will be forced to sit on the plane next to a crying infant that's not yours." (A few parents in line joked that they had an infant to offer. :smile:) So, it's amazing how you can get TSA workers who have a great sense of humor and are good at keeping lines moving and try to help everyone along, and then you can get such morons who think a cartoon on a t-shirt is some sort of security threat.
 
Moonbear said:
In contrast, while stuck in an overly long security line in AZ
Haha Sky Harbor used to be amazing. I still like it, but it definitely used to be a lot better. I remember once standing in a 3 hour line at sky harbor... ugh. I still don't know why a domestic line would be that long, but whatever. All the workers I've ever encountered at sky harbor are really nice, which is probably why I like it...
 
Moonbear said:
"If you hold up the line because you didn't listen to what I just told you, you will be forced to sit on the plane next to a crying infant that's not yours."

Horror of horrors! :smile:
 

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