Has String Theory's Mistakes Led to Advancements in Physics and Mathematics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the impact of string theory on advancements in physics and mathematics, exploring whether the efforts in string theory have contributed positively to these fields despite its challenges and criticisms. Participants consider examples of such contributions and the implications of string theory's potential falsification.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that string theory has advanced knowledge in certain areas of mathematics.
  • Methods developed in string theory are proposed to be applicable in calculating processes within the Standard Model.
  • A participant references a write-up indicating that string theory research has significantly aided the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) research program.
  • There is a viewpoint that experimentally falsifying string theory could be considered a major contribution to experimental physics.
  • One participant imagines the role of theorists as exploring the space of possible theories and ruling out regions based on previous data, emphasizing the importance of identifying potentially incorrect theories.
  • Another participant mentions the Fields Medal awarded to Ed Witten as an example of recognition linked to string theory.
  • Concerns are raised about the distinction between different contributions, such as the no-ghost theorem and monstrous moonshine, indicating some confusion in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the contributions of string theory, with some asserting its positive impact on mathematics and physics, while others question the nature and significance of these contributions. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly regarding the implications of string theory's potential falsification.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the contributions of string theory depend on specific definitions and interpretations, and there are unresolved distinctions between different mathematical results associated with string theory.

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... due to whatever. What has the effort provided besides showing that the universe doesn't work a certain way? Assuming it has aided in other areas of physics and mathematics. Any examples?

Thanks.
 
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Beer w/Straw said:
... due to whatever. What has the effort provided besides showing that the universe doesn't work a certain way? Assuming it has aided in other areas of physics and mathematics. Any examples?

Thanks.

I'll have to leave it to others to provide details but it is my understanding that "Assuming it has aided in other areas of physics and mathematics" is not an assumption for math, it is a fact that string theory has advanced study/knowledge in some areas of math.
 
Methods developed in string theory can be used to calculate processes in the Standard Model, for example.
 
If string theory were experimentally falsified, that would be a huge contribution of string theory!
 
atyy said:
If string theory were experimentally falsified, that would be a huge contribution of string theory!

Contribution to what? I'd say this would be a huge achievement of experimental physics.
 
martinbn said:
Contribution to what? I'd say this would be a huge achievement of experimental physics.

I imagine the role of the theorist as finding out the space of possible theories consistent with previous data, and suggesting ways of ruling out regions of that space. I think finding out possible theories that may turn out to be wrong is an important part of theory.
 
atyy said:
I imagine the role of the theorist as finding out the space of possible theories consistent with previous data, and suggesting ways of ruling out regions of that space. I think finding out possible theories that may turn out to be wrong is an important part of theory.

That was specifically excluded. He asked about other contributions.
 
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Beer w/Straw said:
When it references a university, is it a very critical peer review?

It's a review. So far as I know, its content is non-controversial. That is, string theory skeptics such as Penrose or Smolin would not dispute any significant aspect of this review (of mathematical contributions of the string theory program).
 
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Ed Witten got the Fields medal, that would be an example.

So I guess I answered my own question, but it would be cool if there were more.
 
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Why doesn't my answer qualify?
 
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martinbn said:
Why doesn't my answer qualify?

Monstrous moonshine and no-ghost theorem are two different wiki pages.

It was awkward.
 

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