Have you ever had to go to a hospital over seas?

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The discussion revolves around the experiences and considerations of seeking medical treatment while traveling abroad, particularly in the context of dental issues and emergency care. Participants share personal anecdotes, insurance concerns, and the standards of healthcare in foreign countries.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about a wisdom tooth issue that may require treatment from a Thai oral surgeon during their vacation.
  • Another participant suggests that many tourist countries have hospitals that meet 'western' standards and discusses the implications of travel insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions.
  • Some participants mention the possibility of receiving treatment for free in countries with universal healthcare, but note that billing practices can vary, especially in Europe and Canada.
  • A suggestion is made regarding the use of hydrogen peroxide as a remedy to stave off infection, though its transport on planes is questioned.
  • There is a discussion about the ethics of Americans relying on universal healthcare in other countries while opposing it domestically, with differing opinions on this perspective.
  • One participant shares a personal experience of receiving free treatment after a wasp sting while traveling, highlighting the variability in healthcare access abroad.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of emergency medical evacuation insurance, with some participants sharing their experiences and costs associated with such coverage.
  • Another participant recounts their experience with healthcare in France, noting the differences in insurance needs for citizens versus travelers.

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Participants express a range of views on the availability and quality of healthcare abroad, the ethics of insurance coverage, and the necessity of travel insurance. There is no clear consensus on these issues, and multiple competing perspectives are present.

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Limitations include varying definitions of what constitutes 'universal healthcare,' differences in insurance policies, and the personal nature of healthcare experiences that may not generalize across different countries.

Who May Find This Useful

Travelers considering medical care abroad, individuals interested in international health insurance, and those curious about healthcare standards in different countries.

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I am about to leave for my 2 week vacation in Thailand tomorrow. But as fate would have it, my wisdom tooth in the back right corner of my mouth seems to be coming in right now. My gums are starting to become badly swollen. If it gets infected I will definitely have to have it taken out which means a Thai oral surgeon. So have you ever had to go to a hospital in a foreign country before? Would insurance even pay for this? Are foreigners allowed to go to hospitals and not pay anything in countries w/ universal health care?
 
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In most tourist countries there are hospitals that would be upto 'western' standards. Check with a brand-name hotel for recomendations.
Wether your travel insurance would cover you for an existing condition that knew would need treatent while you are away - otherwise you could get all your medical treatment for free with a cheap airfare and a 1 day insurance policy!

In the Europe/Canada you will be treated in a hospital but will normally be billed - either directly to your insurance company or sometimes back to your home countries health agency if there is a reciprocal agreement. The UK at least is trying to tighten up on this since hospitals near Heathrow airport are seen to be victims of health tourism.
 
I don't know about visiting the hospital, but I do know how you can stave off infection completely for at least two weeks: hydrogen peroxide.

You can get it as a mouthwash (Colgate Peroxyl) or you can use the over the counter first aid stuff. If you use the first aid type, it has a higher concentration (3% instead of 1.9%), so it is best to use a soaked cotton ball (the only danger is swallowing large amounts).

Maybe it sounds like too much of an alternative medicine remedy, but I think it really works miracles for mouth infections (as in, one gargle before bed and an aching tooth abscess will feel and look much much better, for long enough to get to the dentist).
 
Of course you won't be able to take that hydrogen peroxide on the plane!
 
chemisttree said:
Of course you won't be able to take that hydrogen peroxide on the plane!
Could you take say 99ml of H2O2 and 99ml of Acetone in separate bottles as long as you put them in a little transparent bag ?

Of course if they stop you - make sure that they don't throw them together into the bin with all the other suspected explosives.
 
mgb_phys said:
Could you take say 99ml of H2O2 and 99ml of Acetone in separate bottles as long as you put them in a little transparent bag ?

Of course if they stop you - make sure that they don't throw them together into the bin with all the other suspected explosives.

Not much would happen at 3%.
 
gravenewworld said:
I am about to leave for my 2 week vacation in Thailand tomorrow. But as fate would have it, my wisdom tooth in the back right corner of my mouth seems to be coming in right now. My gums are starting to become badly swollen. If it gets infected I will definitely have to have it taken out which means a Thai oral surgeon. So have you ever had to go to a hospital in a foreign country before? Would insurance even pay for this? Are foreigners allowed to go to hospitals and not pay anything in countries w/ universal health care?

So Americans don't want universal health care but hope that they are covered for health charges in countries where universal health care exists?

That's low.
 
JasonRox said:
So Americans don't want universal health care but hope that they are covered for health charges in countries where universal health care exists?

That's low.

I don't know why you'd think that's low...all insurance I've ever had offered coverage for international travelers. But most don't offer emergency medical evacuation, so you have to pay extra for that. When my daughter went to England last year, evacuation insurance cost about ten dollars for the summer. Well worth it, since a medical transport would cost thousands of dollars.
 
I have to say yes. I was in a market somewhere in the world and this wasp decided to start eating my ankle. :bugeye:

I freaked out and had to go to the hospital so that they could put some gauze on the open wound. It was free though. (treatment)

As for if overseas will let you pay etc. etc. you have to speak to your current medical insurance. My mother has to go overseas and she gets a plan from her credit card of all things and she is insured up to a certain ammount.
 
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lisab said:
I don't know why you'd think that's low...all insurance I've ever had offered coverage for international travelers. But most don't offer emergency medical evacuation, so you have to pay extra for that. When my daughter went to England last year, evacuation insurance cost about ten dollars for the summer. Well worth it, since a medical transport would cost thousands of dollars.

Buy travel insurance. Simple as that.
 
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JasonRox said:
Buy travel insurance. Simple as that.

So that's what it's called. That's what my mother buys when she travels overseas for buisness.
 
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I underwent several surgery back in France. But since I am a citizen there, I did not need special insurance :-p I have a few armenian friends, one of them needed a tooth surgery, I am not sure what. The plane ticket included, it is less expensive for him to go back home. And yes, he was perfectly happy about it, even he claimed the doctors are better there (of which I have no clue). I found it amazing, but that definitely does not apply to an emergency.

What about having to go to the hospital in the U.S. when you are an overseas' citizen. :rolleyes: Back home I was told I had better get two of those insurances :smile:
 
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mgb_phys said:
Could you take say 99ml of H2O2 and 99ml of Acetone in separate bottles as long as you put them in a little transparent bag ?

Of course if they stop you - make sure that they don't throw them together into the bin with all the other suspected explosives.

And make an absolutely miniscule piece of AP. LOL
 

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