Can Particles Escape a Black Hole? The Hawking Radiation Improbability

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the mechanics of Hawking radiation and the misconceptions surrounding particle escape from black holes. It clarifies that particles created just outside the event horizon can escape due to their inherent velocity, while emphasizing that this process is often misrepresented in popular science. The term "Strawman radiation" is introduced to highlight the inaccuracies in common analogies. Furthermore, it is noted that light emitted from just outside the event horizon can always escape, reinforcing the complexity of Hawking's original theories.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of black hole physics and event horizons
  • Familiarity with Hawking radiation and its implications
  • Basic knowledge of particle physics and velocity concepts
  • Ability to interpret scientific papers, specifically Stephen Hawking's original work
NEXT STEPS
  • Study Stephen Hawking's original paper on black hole radiation
  • Research the implications of event horizons in general relativity
  • Explore the concept of light speed and its relation to gravitational fields
  • Investigate common misconceptions in popular science regarding black holes
USEFUL FOR

Physicists, astrophysicists, science communicators, and anyone interested in the complexities of black hole mechanics and Hawking radiation.

pforeman
Messages
21
Reaction score
0
How can a particle created just outside the event horizon with no velocity (?) escape a black hole, never to return, when black holes gravity is so strong that they can pull matter away from stars many kilometers distant?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
pforeman said:
How can a particle created just outside the event horizon with no velocity (?) escape a black hole, never to return, when black holes gravity is so strong that they can pull matter away from stars many kilometers distant?
This is not how Hawking radiation works. Unfortunately, how it actually works does not let itself be well described at B level so what is left for popular scientific descriptions are imperfect analogies.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: vanhees71 and malawi_glenn
pforeman said:
How can a particle created just outside the event horizon with no velocity (?) escape a black hole, never to return, when black holes gravity is so strong that they can pull matter away from stars many kilometers distant?
That's not Hawking radiation. That's Strawman radiation.
 
  • Haha
Likes   Reactions: vanhees71, Demystifier, Vanadium 50 and 1 other person
pforeman said:
How can a particle created just outside the event horizon with no velocity (?) escape a black hole, never to return, when black holes gravity is so strong that they can pull matter away from stars many kilometers distant?
Light starting outside the event horizon can always escape - it’s always moving at the speed of light.

But more importantly and as @Orodruin points out above, there’s a lot more going on than just a particle being created and flying away. If you take a look at Hawking’s paper you will see why most popular explanations oversimplify the process.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Likes   Reactions: pforeman, russ_watters, vanhees71 and 1 other person

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • · Replies 73 ·
3
Replies
73
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K