HCl Dissolving in Water: Calculating pH and Titration with NaOH

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of pH for a hydrochloric acid (HCl) solution and the titration of HCl with sodium hydroxide (NaOH). It includes aspects of homework problem-solving, chemical equations, and stoichiometry in acid-base reactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for the pH of a solution created by dissolving 1.6 grams of HCl in 0.40 liters of water, arriving at a pH of approximately 0.96.
  • The same participant calculates the volume of 0.050 mol/L NaOH required to titrate 30 mL of 0.10 mol/L HCl, concluding it to be 60 mL.
  • Another participant agrees with the calculations but cautions that stoichiometric coefficients should not be omitted in titration equations, noting that they equal 1 in this specific case.
  • A later reply questions how the stoichiometric relationship would change if the reaction involved 2 moles of HCl for every 1 mole of NaOH, suggesting a modified equation.
  • There is curiosity expressed about the significance of the temperature of 298 K in the context of the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the calculations presented, but there is a discussion about the importance of stoichiometric coefficients in titration equations, indicating some uncertainty about their application in different scenarios. The significance of the temperature provided remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of stoichiometric coefficients in titration equations for different acid-base reactions. The relevance of the temperature of 298 K is also not clarified.

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Homework Statement


HCl gas dissolves in water consisting of hydrochloric acid, or hydrochloric acid. HCl dissociates
fully ions as follows: HCl → H+ + Cl-.


Homework Equations


a) Calculate the pH of the solution, which is made ​​by dissolving 1.6 grams of HCl in 0.40 liters of water 298 K temperature.
b) How many ml it takes 0.050 mol/l NaOH solution, when it titraat 30 ml of 0.10 mol/l HCl solution?

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
molar cencentration of H3O+ = n/V
n= 0.0438 mol
C= n/V = 0.0438/0.4 = 0.11 mol/l

PH = -log C of H3O+
PH = -log 0.11
PH = 0.96 (approximately)

b)
HCl with NaOH
Ca*Va = Cb*Vb -------------- we search V of NaOH
Vb = (Ca*Va)/Cb
Vb = (0.10*0.03)/0.050
Vb = 0.06 L
that's 60ml
 
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Looks OK.

chawki said:
HCl with NaOH
Ca*Va = Cb*Vb

Beware - you are omitting stoichiometric coefficients. They equal 1 in this case, so the equation holds, but it doesn't hold automatically for every titration.
 
Borek said:
Looks OK.



Beware - you are omitting stoichiometric coefficients. They equal 1 in this case, so the equation holds, but it doesn't hold automatically for every titration.

Thank you Borek :smile:
but how would it be if we had 2HCl and 1 NaOH
2 Ca*Va = Cb*Vb ?
also i wonder why they gave us the 298K
 
chawki said:
but how would it be if we had 2HCl and 1 NaOH
2 Ca*Va = Cb*Vb ?

That's not how they react. See

http://www.titrations.info/titration-calculation

also i wonder why they gave us the 298K

My guess is they gave it to make you wonder...
 

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