Heat cross exchanger

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and analysis of a cross flow heat exchanger involving hot air and water. Participants explore the parameters needed for calculations using an online steam calculator, including flow rates, temperatures, and specific properties of the fluids involved.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the conditions of the heat exchanger, including the temperatures and flow rates of both the hot air and water.
  • Another participant questions the presence of water, steam, and hot air in the same heat exchanger, suggesting a need for clarification on the system's design.
  • A participant expresses confidence in their ability to solve the problem but seeks guidance on which prompts to use in the steam calculator, specifically regarding entropy figures.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of a single row of coils in extracting sufficient heat from the air to raise the water temperature, suggesting that multiple layers may be necessary.
  • Questions are posed about the configuration of the system, such as whether the cold water is fed into the back of the coil or the side where the air exits, and the implications of air recirculation on heat retention.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the optimal approach for using the steam calculator or the design of the heat exchanger, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions regarding the system's configuration and efficiency.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could influence the performance of the heat exchanger, such as the number of coil rows and the method of air recirculation, but these aspects remain unresolved and depend on specific design choices.

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TL;DR
How do I break down this question for inputs for viscosity etc
I have a problem with a cross flow heat exchanger. Hot air enters at 150 degrees at a flow rate of 4.0m^3 s^-1 and a flow speed of 12m s^-1

Water has a flow rate of 0.5kg s^-1 in the tube which has a 50mm diameter

Inlet of the water is 12 degrees and decided outlet is 85

I am confident in my ability to answer the question but having one problem, I have to use an online steam calculator and need help which what prompts to use

My calculator prompts are

Pressure / temperature

Pressure / specific enthalphy

Pressure / specific entropy

Pressure / specific volume

Temperature / specific entropy

Temperature/ quality

Is there something I'm missing, I feel that temperature and specific entropy is the correct one but where do I get my entropy figures?

Any help would be appreciated
 
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Welcome to PF, Morty. Is this question for schoolwork?
 
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Why do we have water, steam and hot air inside the same heat exchanger?
 
cowboyMorty said:
TL;DR Summary: How do I break down this question for inputs for viscosity etc

I have a problem with a cross flow heat exchanger. Hot air enters at 150 degrees at a flow rate of 4.0m^3 s^-1 and a flow speed of 12m s^-1

Water has a flow rate of 0.5kg s^-1 in the tube which has a 50mm diameter

Inlet of the water is 12 degrees and decided outlet is 85

I am confident in my ability to answer the question but having one problem, I have to use an online steam calculator and need help which what prompts to use

My calculator prompts are

Pressure / temperature

Pressure / specific enthalphy

Pressure / specific entropy

Pressure / specific volume

Temperature / specific entropy

Temperature/ quality

Is there something I'm missing, I feel that temperature and specific entropy is the correct one but where do I get my entropy figures?

Any help would be appreciated
You will run into more problems, like how many rows of coils the air passes through. Are you feeding the cold water into the back of the coil, the side the air is leaving? One row will probably not extract enough heat from the air to raise the temperature of the water. Most evaporation coils have multiple layers for that reason. It also saves space.

Things like, "Are you recirculating the air?" Mater as well, if you do not want to waste the heat in the air of a single-pass system.

With a multilayer coil, the water leaving the system is polished to perfection on the face of the coil receiving the incoming hot air. Because the water has been pre-warmed by the air that passes through the first layer or layers of the coil.
 

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