HELP : Centre of mass and Centre of gravity

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of the center of mass (C.M) and the center of gravity (C.G), exploring their definitions and differences in a physics context.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the distinctions between C.M and C.G, with some asserting they are the same and others providing definitions that highlight their differences. Questions about the implications of these definitions are raised, particularly regarding torque and gravitational force.

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The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored. Some participants are providing explanations and counterarguments, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

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There appears to be confusion among participants regarding the definitions and implications of C.M and C.G, with references to specific conditions under which they may coincide. The discussion reflects a need for deeper understanding rather than a straightforward resolution.

garyljc
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hello ,
could anyone explain to me the difference between
a.) the centre of mass
b.) the centre of gravity

much aprreciated =) Cheers
 
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There isn't really any.

The terms are just used differently depending on context, but it's the same thing
 
No, they are not the same.
The centre of gravity is the point (if it exists) so that if the net gravitational force acting upon the object is considered to act at that point (rather than diffusely distributed at the various mass points the object consists of), then the torque wrt. the C.M of the object is the same as the torque (wrt. C.M.) as calculated for the diffusely distributed gravitational force.

Evidently, for a constant force of gravity, the C.M and the C.G coincide.
 
hmmm sorry but I'm stll a lil confuse , could elaborate slightly more =)
 
garyljc said:
hmmm sorry but I'm stll a lil confuse , could elaborate slightly more =)

see, this is why my explanation was better.

Don't worry about the differences, they're essentially the same thing
 
They are not the same thing.
As measured from the C.M of the object, where [itex]\vec{F}[/itex] is the net (grav.)force on the object, and [itex]\vec{\tau}[/itex] is the net (grav.) torque wrt. to the C.M, we have that that the position of C.G, [itex]\vec{r}_{C.G}[/itex] is given by the formula:
[tex]\vec{r}_{C.G}=\frac{\vec{F}\times\vec{\tau}}{|\vec{F}|^{2}}[/tex]
under the condition [itex]\vec{F}\cdot\vec{\tau}=0[/itex]

It by no means follows that we have [itex]\vec{r}_{C.G}=\vec{0}[/itex]
 
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