Difference between centre of mass and centre of gravity

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of center of mass and center of gravity, particularly how they differ and how they are defined. Participants express confusion regarding the definition of center of mass, especially in relation to irregular shapes and the implications of gravitational fields.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question the definition of center of mass without referencing center of gravity, and seek clarification on the meaning of "equally distributed mass" for irregular shapes. There are suggestions to consult external sources for further understanding.

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Some participants have provided links to Wikipedia articles as resources for clarification. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and implications of the concepts, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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Participants note the complexity introduced when gravitational fields are not uniform, which may affect the understanding of center of gravity in relation to center of mass.

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Now, I know the centre of gravity can change depending on how close to uniform the gravitational field is, and it is where the weight appears to act from.
But, what is the centre of mass? Ok, it is a constant; doesn't change; and in an uniform gravitational field the two centres overlap; but how do you define the centre of mass without referencing centre of gravity?
An online source said it is the point from which the mass is 'equally distributed in all directions' for an object; but I can have irregular shapes. What does that source means? Or is the centre of mass defined in another way?
I am really confused!
Thanks in advance for any help you could provide :)

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MBBphys said:

Homework Statement


Now, I know the centre of gravity can change depending on how close to uniform the gravitational field is, and it is where the weight appears to act from.
But, what is the centre of mass? Ok, it is a constant; doesn't change; and in an uniform gravitational field the two centres overlap; but how do you define the centre of mass without referencing centre of gravity?
An online source said it is the point from which the mass is 'equally distributed in all directions' for an object; but I can have irregular shapes. What does that source means? Or is the centre of mass defined in another way?
I am really confused!
Thanks in advance for any help you could provide :)

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This is a better description of the center of mass:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_mass

For the center of gravity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_of_gravity_in_non-uniform_fields

For objects in uniform gravity fields, the center of mass and the center of gravity are the same point. When the gravity field is no longer uniform, then things get more complicated.

Basically, it comes down to locating the point at which a force can be applied to a body which causes it to translate in the direction of the applied force without rotation.
 
Hi MBBphys:

I suggest you read the Wikipedia article. You can use your browser to search on:
center of mass !wiki​

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Buzz
 
SteamKing said:
This is a better description of the center of mass:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_mass

For the center of gravity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_of_gravity_in_non-uniform_fields

For objects in uniform gravity fields, the center of mass and the center of gravity are the same point. When the gravity field is no longer uniform, then things get more complicated.

Basically, it comes down to locating the point at which a force can be applied to a body which causes it to translate in the direction of the applied force without rotation.
Thank you, I think I get it now!
 
Buzz Bloom said:
Hi MBBphys:

I suggest you read the Wikipedia article. You can use your browser to search on:
center of mass !wiki​

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Buzz
Thanks!
 

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