Help Me Find the Perimeter of Tn+1

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The discussion revolves around finding the perimeter of a sequence of triangles defined by their side lengths, starting with a triangle T1 with sides 2011, 2012, and 2013. Participants explore the properties of the triangles formed by the points of tangency of the incircle and the implications of the triangle inequality on the sequence.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the perimeter of the last triangle in the sequence is 1509/28, while another claims it is 1509/128.
  • Participants discuss the sequence of values derived from the initial triangle, suggesting a pattern with terms like 6036/2, 6036/4, and so on, leading to 6036/4096.
  • A participant mentions the stopping condition for the sequence, where the longest side of the triangle must be greater than the sum of the other two sides.
  • Another participant acknowledges a mistake in their calculations related to the triangle inequality rule.
  • There are corrections made by participants regarding the claimed perimeter values, with one participant admitting to an error and reaffirming the value of 1509/128.

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There is disagreement regarding the correct perimeter of the last triangle in the sequence, with multiple competing values presented by participants. The discussion remains unresolved as participants correct their earlier claims without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the relationship between the sides of consecutive triangles in the sequence and the implications of the triangle inequality on their calculations.

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Could I get some help please?Let T1 be a triangle with sides 2011, 2012, and 2013. For n > = 1, if Tn = triangle ABC
and D, E, and F are the points of tangency of the incircle of triangle ABC to the
sides AB, BC, and AC, respectively, then Tn+1 is a triangle with side lengths
AD, BE, and CF, if it exists. What is the perimeter of the last triangle in the
sequence (Tn) ?

The answer is 1509/28.

Please do not laugh at my solution.

6036/2 , 6036/4 ,6036/8 ... 6036/4096.
I put 4096 as the last term because the next one is 8192

My answer 6036/4098 = 1509/1024
 
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veronica1999 said:
Could I get some help please?Let T1 be a triangle with sides 2011, 2012, and 2013. For n > = 1, if Tn = triangle ABC
and D, E, and F are the points of tangency of the incircle of triangle ABC to the
sides AB, BC, and AC, respectively, then Tn+1 is a triangle with side lengths
AD, BE, and CF, if it exists. What is the perimeter of the last triangle in the
sequence (Tn) ?

The answer is 1509/128.

Please do not laugh at my solution.

6036/2 , 6036/4 ,6036/8 ... 6036/4096.
I put 4096 as the last term because the next one is 8192

My answer 6036/4098 = 1509/1024

The stopping condition is where the longest of \(AD\), \(BE\), \(CF\) for \(T_n\) is greater than the sum of the other two.

So do you know the relationship between the sides of consecutive triangles in the sequence?CB
 
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Thanks!

I see I forgot to consider the triangle inequality rule.

6036/512 = 11.787

11.787/3 = 3.92

2.92 3.92 4.926036/1024 = 5.89

5.89/3 = 2.96

0.96 1.96 2.96
 
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Oops it was my mistake. I meant 1509/128. Sorry.
 
veronica1999 said:
Oops it was my mistake. I meant 1509/128. Sorry.

Which is what I get.

CB
 
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