Help please with this chemistry molar calculation

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The discussion revolves around a chemistry molar calculation involving sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) and sodium carbonate (Na2CO3), focusing on the setup of equations and conversions related to molarity and volume. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification of the calculations involved.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant points out that the initial equation assumes equal molar amounts of NaHCO3 and Na2CO3, suggesting this assumption leads to errors in the calculation.
  • Another participant proposes setting up two simultaneous equations for the amounts of NaHCO3 (x) and Na2CO3 (y) to solve the problem.
  • A participant raises a question about calculating the moles of HCl in a given volume of acid solution, specifically 15 cc.
  • One participant attempts to clarify the conversion between decimeters and centimeters, noting a mistake in their earlier calculation regarding the conversion of molarity from dm^3 to cm^3.
  • Another participant reiterates the conversion process, providing a corrected calculation for moles per cubic centimeter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumptions made in the initial calculation, and there is no consensus on the correct approach to solving the problem. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the proper setup of equations and the accuracy of the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the amounts of reactants, and the conversions between different units of volume and concentration are not fully resolved, leading to potential confusion in the calculations.

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Homework Statement
I was practising questions from a book printed in the 1980s, and I'm unsure where I went wrong with this Q, the answer is 68.2%
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I dont use equations for chemistry mole calculations, i just think my way through it so I don't know
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In your initial hand-written equation, you have “##NaHCO_3 \cdot Na_2CO_3##. This means you have implicitly assumed that you are starting with equal (molar) amounts of ##NaHCO_3## and ##Na_2CO_3##. It goes wrong from there.

Suppose the 0.500g of reactant contains x grams of ##NaHCO_3## and y grams, of ##Na_2CO_3##.

Can you set up 2 simultaneous equations for x and y and solve them?

Edit: ask for hints if you can't!
 
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1 dm^3 = 1000 cc, so 15 cc of the acid solution contains ?? moles of HCl?
 
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Maybe this could reassure you or maybe not:
1 decimeter is 10 centimeters.
(careful! these two lines have a mistake.)
0.100 mole/(dm^3) * (10/1)^3(dm/cm)^3

100 mole/(cm)^3

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THAT above is obviously wrong. This is the kind of trouble I have when I do things strictly through keyboard and computer screen. My work later using pen and paper was bettter.

Should have that been like so:
0.100 (moles/dm^3)*(1/10)(dm/cm)(1/10)(dm/cm)(1/10)(dm/cm)
0.100(1/1000)(moles/cm^3)
0.000100 moles per cubic centimeter
 
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symbolipoint said:
Maybe this could reassure you or maybe not:
1 decimeter is 10 centimeters.

0.100 mole/(dm^3) * (10/1)^3(dm/cm)^3

100 mole/(cm)^3
0.1 mole/1000cc=##0.0001\ moles/cc##
 
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