Help reduce the severity of accidents

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The discussion revolves around the design of safety measures to reduce the severity of accidents involving vehicles colliding with bridge supports. The subject area includes concepts of physics related to force, energy absorption, and collision dynamics.

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  • Participants explore the implications of a vehicle colliding with bridge supports versus safety barrels, questioning the assumptions about energy conversion and the nature of collisions. There is also discussion about the properties of antifreeze compared to water in terms of heat absorption and potential damage.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants raising various points about the mechanics of collisions and the effectiveness of antifreeze in mitigating damage. Some guidance is offered regarding the assumptions made in the problem, but no consensus has been reached.

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There are assumptions regarding the immobility of bridge supports and the nature of the collision (elastic vs. inelastic) that are under discussion. The potential for antifreeze to perform better than water in cold conditions is also noted.

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To help reduce the severity of accidents, an engineering company designs large plastic barrels filled with antifreeze that can be placed in front of bridge supports. in a simple test, a 1200 kg car moving at 20 m/s (W) crashes into several barrels. the car slows down to 8.0 m/s (W) in 0.40 s.

i found the average net force to be -36000 N (W)

b: what would happen if the car hit the bridge supprts instead of the barrels.

c: why do they use antifreeze instead of water.

i'm confused but i think that for both b and c, it's about the car's ability to bounce back?
 
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If the author of the problem has a tacit assumption that the bridge supports cannot move at all and that the car would not have any ricocheting velocity (which would seem to need to be specified, since this can easily be assumed not to be an elastic collision), then all the kinetic energy of the car must get converted into heat, making the wreckage and the portion of the bridge struck a much hotter mess.
I would suspect that a given volume of antifreeze has the capacity to absorb more heat energy than the same amount of water. The more energy is absorbed by the liquid in the barrels, the lower the temperature of the car wreckage(?)
 


does that mean the net force would increase?
 


I was thinking the water would freeze when it gets cold outside and cause a lot more damage.
 


I'd say yes, it takes more force to push something to a stop than it does to push something down to 8.0 m/s if you get to assume that the time duration of 0.40 s is the same in both cases.
 

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