Help Strange problem with scientific calculator.

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The discussion revolves around a problem encountered while using a scientific calculator to solve a chemical equilibrium problem involving squaring the reciprocal of a large number. Participants explore the calculator's limitations and the concept of arithmetic underflow.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the calculation (1/4.2x10^52)^2 and states the expected result as 5.7 x 10^-106.
  • Another participant notes that the calculator cannot display values greater than 99 or less than -99 in the exponent, which may lead to issues with large or small numbers.
  • A third participant introduces the term "arithmetic underflow" and explains how to break down the calculation into manageable parts, suggesting that the calculator's limitations can be circumvented by understanding the underlying mathematics.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the insights provided by other participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the limitations of the calculator and the concept of arithmetic underflow, but there is no consensus on a definitive solution to the problem presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the calculator's inability to handle extremely small or large values, which may affect the accuracy of results in certain calculations.

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Help!Strange problem with scientific calculator.

I was doing chemical equilibrium problems where one of the steps required me to square the reciprocal.

Which was (1/4.2x10^52)^2

The correct answer for this is 5.7 x 10^-106 but my Casio FX 115 ES calculator keeps showing zero.

Can anyone please shed some insight on this. It would be greatly appreciated. I have used this calculator in the past with success. I never encountered such a problem before. I have my exam on Tuesday. BTW no graphing calculators are allowed. If this doesnot workout then I will have to purchase another scientific calculator.
 
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sunny79 said:
Which was (1/4.2x10^52)^2

The correct answer for this is 5.7 x 10^-106

Welcome to PF :smile:
The calculator can't show a value greater than 99 or less than -99 in the power.(The maximum value available is 9*10^99 and minimum is (9*10^(-99))
(I have a Casio fx-100MS)
 
It is called an "arithmetic underflow".

Note that

\left(\frac 1 {4.2 \times 10^{52}}\right)^2 = \left(\frac 1 {4.2}\right)^2 \left(\frac 1 {10^{52}}\right)^2 = 0.057 \times \frac 1 {10^{104}} = 0.057 \times 10^{-104}

10-104 part can be done in memory faster than it takes to key numbers into calculator - you just need to understand what is going on and how to deal with such a situation.
 
Thanks guys, that helped a lot. :)
 

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