Help with F=mv^2/r | Calculate Centrifugal Force

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The discussion revolves around calculating centrifugal force using the formula F = mv²/r. The original poster presents a scenario involving a 20 cm arm with a 100 gram weight spinning at 1000 rpm, seeking to determine the centrifugal force exerted on the weight.

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  • Participants discuss the need to convert units to SI, clarify the distinction between frequency and speed, and explore how to calculate the tangential speed from angular speed. Questions arise regarding the conversion of angular velocity to linear velocity and the implications of using different units.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on unit conversions and the necessary calculations to find tangential speed. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the correct application of the formula and the units involved.

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Participants note the importance of using consistent units and the need to clarify the definitions of speed and angular velocity in the context of the problem. There is an emphasis on ensuring all quantities are appropriately converted before applying the formula.

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Hello!

I have a problem with centrifugal force calculus. An arm of 20 cm long with a 100 gr weight at the end is spining with 1000 rpm.

F = mv^2/r
F = 100 x 1,000^2 / 20 = 100 x 1,000,000 / 20 = 100,000,000 / 20 = 5,000,000 Kgf?
 
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phynewbie said:
Hello!

I have a problem with centrifugal force calculus. An arm of 20 cm long with a 100 gr weight at the end is spining with 1000 rpm.

F = mv^2/r
F = 100 x 1,000^2 / 20 = 100 x 1,000,000 / 20 = 100,000,000 / 20 = 5,000,000 Kgf?

Welcome to PF,

You need to be careful with your quantities here. It is generally best to use S.I. units (i.e. meters, kilograms, seconds etc.) for such problems. You should also note that 1000 rpm is a frequency as opposed to a speed (which is what v is in you're equation).
 


To use that formula, you need to figure out the speed (v) of the weight. 1000 rpm (revolutions per minute) is not the speed. Hint: What's the circumference of the path, which equals one revolution?
 


I see, cm to meters, rpm to radians/second? now i think i am closer

m = 100 gr = 0.1 Kg
1000 RPM = 104.72 radian/second
r= 20 cm = 0.2 m

F= 0.1x104.72/0.2=0.1x10,966.2784/0.2=1,096.62784/0.2=5,483.1392 Kgf or Newton?

Am i correct now?
 


You correctly found the angular speed (\omega, measured in radians/sec), but you still haven't found the tangential speed (v, measured in m/s).
 


now I am lost, how do i convert radians/sex to m/s?
 


From the hint in post #3.

What distance does the weight travel during 1 revolution?
How long does it take the weight to travel through 1 revolution?

v = distance / time
 

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