Help with Life expectancy of Main Sequence stars.

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The discussion revolves around estimating the main sequence lifetime of the Sun, focusing on the nuclear fusion process that converts hydrogen into helium. Participants explore the implications of mass-energy conversion, the efficiency of fusion, and the relationship between stellar mass and lifespan.

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  • One participant presents a formula for estimating the Sun's lifetime based on mass and luminosity but questions the correctness of their approach.
  • Another participant notes that the derived time expression has incorrect dimensions, suggesting the need for a conversion constant.
  • There is a suggestion that the initial equation used may be inappropriate for the problem at hand.
  • One participant states that the life expectancy of main sequence stars is inversely proportional to their mass, indicating that larger stars have shorter lifespans.
  • A different approach is proposed involving Einstein's equation to calculate the mass converted to energy from the Sun's luminosity, followed by a conversion of time from seconds to years.
  • A participant introduces an analogy comparing the problem to calculating how long a car can run based on fuel consumption.
  • It is mentioned that fusion is more efficient in smaller stars compared to larger ones, which may affect their lifetimes.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate equations and methods for estimating the Sun's lifetime, indicating that no consensus has been reached regarding the correct approach or calculations.

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Participants highlight potential limitations in the equations used, including dimensional inconsistencies and the need for conversion factors. There is also uncertainty regarding the efficiency of fusion processes in stars of different sizes.

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If the nuclear fusion reaction of converting 4 H ! He occurs at an
efficiency of 0.7%, and that mass is converted into energy according
to the equation E = mc2, then estimate the Main Sequence lifetime
of the Sun (spectral type G2) in years if the luminosity of the Sun is
3.83×1033 ergs s−1. Assume the Sun’s core (10% of the total mass) is
converted from H into He. The Sun’s mass is M⊙ = 1.9891 × 1033 g.

t=1/M^2.5

t=1/(91.9891x10^32)^2.5
t= the wrong answer.

What are we doing wrong?
 
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I have no particular knowledge relating to your question. However, your expression for t leads to a t with dimension g^-2.5. Since t is supposed to be in years, I presume that there must be, at a minimum, a conversion constant of some sort.
 
That could be the wrong equation altogether...
 
The life expectancy of a main sequence star is inversely proportional to it's mass - i.e., large stars live fast and die hard, tiny brown dwarfs live dang near forever.
 
Assuming that this is just a homework assignment, what you must do is use Einstein’s equation to determine the amount of mass you get from 3.83×10^33 ergs/second(or rather 3.83 x 10^33 erg/s=mass x c^2, and solve for the mass). BTW, according to the value in the Wiki, this should be 3.85 x 10^33 ergs/sec, but its your homework :). Then divide the Sun’s core mass (which is described as 10% of the value you are given or .1989 x 10^33 grams) by this figure. This is how many seconds it takes to convert the core’s H into He. Finally, just convert seconds to years.
However, the Sun isn’t just going to fuse itself out of existence. It will eventually become a White Dwarf star and remain so for perhaps more than 10^100 years.
 
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There's a nice "car" analogy to this problem. Your gas tank holds 20 gallons. You burn 2 gallons per hour. How long until you run out of gas? It's really the same question.
 
Fusion in small stars is a much more efficient process compared to large stars.
 

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