Help with vector angle and magnitude

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude and angles of two vectors, a = (6.0 m)i - (3.0 m)j and b = (5.0 m)i + (5.0 m)j. Participants are exploring various aspects of vector addition and subtraction, as well as the relationships between the vectors' components and their geometric interpretations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion about how to determine the magnitudes and angles of the vectors. They seek clarification on the methods required to find these values.
  • Some participants suggest using graphical representations and trigonometric relationships to understand the magnitudes and angles better.
  • Questions arise about the use of trigonometric functions, particularly tangent and inverse tangent, in finding angles relative to the axes.
  • There is uncertainty regarding how to combine the magnitudes of the vectors when performing addition and subtraction.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions and offering suggestions for approaches. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of trigonometric relationships and graphical methods, but there is no explicit consensus on the best way to proceed with the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of experience with trigonometry, which may be affecting their confidence in solving the problem. The discussion includes various interpretations of how to approach the calculations for magnitudes and angles.

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Two Vectors Three Here are two vectors:
a = (6.0 m)i - (3.0 m)j and b = (5.0 m)i + (5.0 m)j.
(a) What is the magnitude of a?

(b) What is the angle of a(relative to i)?

(c) What is the magnitude of b?

(d) What is the angle of b?

(e) What is the magnitude of a + b?

(f) What is the angle of a + b?

(g) What is the magnitude of b - a?

(h) What is the angle of b - a?

(i) What is the magnitude of a - b?

(j) What is the angle of a - b?

(k) What is the angle between the directions of b - a and a - b?
The angle between the two vectors is 180°.
The angle between the two vectors is 90°.
The angle between the two vectors is 60°.
The angle between the two vectors is 30°.
The angle between the two vectors is 45°.
The angle between the two vectors is 0°.

I have no idea how to figure out the magnitude, I thought I did but I only confused myself more. If someone can tell me how to find the magnitude how they want me to find it and also the angle, if would be appreciate. Thanks!
 
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BlinkBunnie069 said:
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Two Vectors Three Here are two vectors:
a = (6.0 m)i - (3.0 m)j and b = (5.0 m)i + (5.0 m)j.
(a) What is the magnitude of a?

(b) What is the angle of a(relative to i)?

(c) What is the magnitude of b?

(d) What is the angle of b?

(e) What is the magnitude of a + b?

(f) What is the angle of a + b?

(g) What is the magnitude of b - a?

(h) What is the angle of b - a?

(i) What is the magnitude of a - b?

(j) What is the angle of a - b?

(k) What is the angle between the directions of b - a and a - b?
The angle between the two vectors is 180°.
The angle between the two vectors is 90°.
The angle between the two vectors is 60°.
The angle between the two vectors is 30°.
The angle between the two vectors is 45°.
The angle between the two vectors is 0°.

I have no idea how to figure out the magnitude, I thought I did but I only confused myself more. If someone can tell me how to find the magnitude how they want me to find it and also the angle, if would be appreciate. Thanks!


Draw the vector on a graph paper. Draw a line 6 units to the right, 3 units downwards, then use the head-to-tail rule to draw the magnitude of a (It should be a diagonal line). That is your graphical representation of the vector you have.

Notice if you do that, you have a right triangle, with the hypotenuse being your magnitude. What rule do you use to find the hypotenuse of a right triangle, if you know the length of two other sides?
 
You use tan= opp./adj to find the hypotenuse I believe. I haven't had much experience w/ trig. So for a) it would be 6/3= 3m and for b) 5/5=1. Am I on the right track?

Now for the angle of a(relative to i), would I take the inverse tangent of 3? Or how would this part work?

Also the magnitude when adding the two different vectors, I'm not sure how you would solve for them when you'd have 4 different values from a and b. Actually, would you just add and subtract the two values you solve for in parts a and b for parts e, g, and i?
 
BlinkBunnie069 said:
You use tan= opp./adj to find the hypotenuse I believe. I haven't had much experience w/ trig. So for a) it would be 6/3= 3m and for b) 5/5=1. Am I on the right track?

Now for the angle of a(relative to i), would I take the inverse tangent of 3? Or how would this part work?

Also the magnitude when adding the two different vectors, I'm not sure how you would solve for them when you'd have 4 different values from a and b. Actually, would you just add and subtract the two values you solve for in parts a and b for parts e, g, and i?

You are making this more complicated than it should be.

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Suppose you know the sides of b,a. What rule can you use to find c?

As for adding the magnitude of two different vectors, you use the similar idea, except you add the corresponding components together, and use the rule mentioned above to calculate the magnitude.
 

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