Help: (x-3) is a factor of x^2-4x+c, find c?

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The discussion revolves around determining the value of c in the polynomial x^2 - 4x + c, given that (x-3) is a factor. Participants explore the implications of this factorization and the relationship between the roots and coefficients of the polynomial.

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  • Some participants discuss the theorem that states if (x-a) is a factor of a polynomial, then evaluating the polynomial at a equals zero. Others question what steps to take when faced with similar problems, emphasizing the importance of understanding polynomial behavior and factoring.

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There is a mix of attempts to solve for c, with some participants suggesting calculations based on substituting x=3 into the polynomial. Others express uncertainty about arithmetic and the correctness of their conclusions. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and guidance has been offered regarding the evaluation of polynomials at specific points.

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Participants mention potential confusion regarding the arithmetic involved in evaluating the polynomial and the relationship between factors and coefficients. There is also a reference to homework constraints, as participants are encouraged to work through similar examples independently.

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Homework Statement



If (x-3) is a factor of: x^2 - 4x + c, what is c?





Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I am really stuck here. When presented with these types of questions, what is the FIRST thing you look at/do ?

Thanks so much.
 
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nukeman said:

Homework Statement



If (x-3) is a factor of: x^2 - 4x + c, what is c?





Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I am really stuck here. When presented with these types of questions, what is the FIRST thing you look at/do ?

Thanks so much.

There's a theorem that deals with this. If x - a is a factor of a polynomial f(x), then f(a) = 0.

Here's an example:
f(x) = x3 - x2 - 5x - 3

As it happens, f(x) can be factored into (x - 3)(x2 + 2x + 1).

This means that x - 3 is a factor of f(x). It also means that f(3) = 0. We can verify this by calculating f(3) = 33 - 32 - 5(3) - 3 = 27 - 9 - 15 - 3 = 0.
 
nukeman said:

Homework Statement



If (x-3) is a factor of: x^2 - 4x + c, what is c?

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



I am really stuck here. When presented with these types of questions, what is the FIRST thing you look at/do ?

Thanks so much.
The first thing I ask, is what do you know about polynomials and factoring.

For this problem, "What is the remainder of (x2 - 4x + c)÷(x-3), if (x-3) is a factor of x2 - 4x + c ?"
 
Holy crap, think I got it. Please let me know if correct?

If (x-3) is a factor of: x^2 - 4x + c, what is c?


(3)^2 - 4(3) + c

9 - 16 + c = 0

c = 7

? is that correct?
 
nukeman said:
Holy crap, think I got it. Please let me know if correct?

If (x-3) is a factor of: x^2 - 4x + c, what is c?(3)^2 - 4(3) + c

9 - 16 + c = 0

c = 7

? is that correct?

Do you really have to ask that? Is x-3 a factor of ##x^2-4x+7##? If it is you are done, otherwise you might want to check your arithmetic.
 
nukeman said:
Holy crap, think I got it. Please let me know if correct?

If (x-3) is a factor of: x^2 - 4x + c, what is c?


(3)^2 - 4(3) + c

9 - 16 + c = 0

c = 7

? is that correct?
What is 4(3) ?

(It's not 16.)
 
Oh, I wrote on my paper 4(4)
 
So correct answer is:

c = +3

Umm... sorry if this is a dumb question, but the last 2 I did, C is always the same as what they are telling is a factor of.

So, this one I just did, they say (x+3) is a factor of... would c automatically be +3?

The answer turned out to be +3.

Can someone give me another simular example to try?
 
nukeman said:
So correct answer is:

c = +3

Umm... sorry if this is a dumb question, but the last 2 I did, C is always the same as what they are telling is a factor of.

So, this one I just did, they say (x+3) is a factor of... would c automatically be +3?

The answer turned out to be +3.

Can someone give me another similar example to try?
Work some examples out for yourself.

What is (x-3)(x+4) ?

The one you were solving in this thread has a factor of (x-3).

But, suppose the question is:
If (x+3) is a factor of: x2 - 4x + c, what is c?

If f(x) = x2 - 4x + c, what is f(-3) ?​
 
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Hi sammy.

Ok, so for the question you gave me: If (x+3) is a factor of: x2 - 4x + c, what is c?

c would = -21 ?
 
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nukeman said:
Hi sammy.

Ok, so for the question you gave me: If (x+3) is a factor of: x2 - 4x + c, what is c?

c would = -21 ?
Yes.
 
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nukeman said:
Hi sammy.

Ok, so for the question you gave me: If (x+3) is a factor of: x2 - 4x + c, what is c?

c would = -21 ?

Nukeman, I will suggest again, when you have a problem like that and you think c = -21 so your function is ##x^2-4x-21##, why don't you just try factoring it yourself and see if x+3 is a factor instead of asking us if -21 is correct?
 

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