Here we go with the friendly fire again

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the incident of a Royal Air Force aircraft being shot down by a US Patriot missile, exploring the potential causes of the incident, including issues with identification friend or foe (IFF) systems, possible malfunctions, and the broader implications of military operations and technology. The conversation touches on military protocols, the reliability of technology, and the complexities of friendly fire incidents in combat situations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that all allied aircraft send out IFF signals that should be easily recognizable, raising questions about potential electronic malfunctions.
  • Others argue that a plane would not be allowed to operate with a malfunctioning IFF transponder, although damage from anti-aircraft fire is considered a possibility.
  • There are inquiries about whether the malfunction could originate from the Patriot missile system itself, including the possibility of radar damage or operator error.
  • Participants discuss the confusion that can arise in military operations, citing historical examples of friendly fire incidents involving US forces.
  • Some express skepticism about the reliability of US military technology and training, suggesting that over-reliance on technology may lead to tragic mistakes.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of mechanical failures and pilot errors in military operations, with references to drug use among personnel as a potential factor.
  • Speculative claims are made regarding possible sabotage or ulterior motives among military personnel, although these are met with skepticism by others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on the causes of the incident or the reliability of military technology and training. Disagreements persist regarding the implications of friendly fire incidents and the potential for sabotage within military ranks.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of definitive evidence regarding the causes of the incident, the dependence on anecdotal experiences, and the unresolved nature of claims about military protocols and technology reliability.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying military operations, technology in warfare, or the complexities of friendly fire incidents in combat scenarios.

  • #31
And a US F16 shot a Patriot battery after the Patriot system locked onto him with its fire control system.

Duh. The pilot had common sense and shot it instead of getting himself killed.


Accidents happen. It's nothing new.

THANK YOU! Adam seems to think that Americans try to cause these things and he is the most anti american person I have ever met. Well... Kyleb could give him a run for his money.
 
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  • #32
you sure are quick to judge Nicool003.
 
  • #33
Quick to judge? I think not! I have been reading your posts and replying them for at least over an hour each day for at least a week! And you have no material to prove me wrong! Every post of your is against the U.S and ANYONE (besides maybe adam) who will take the time to read this whole thread, lifegazers why we are at war thread, Russ's The U.S is the light.." thread and MANY OTHER threads they will see that you are very anti american.

I apologize if I have offended you but you really have not proven me wrong...
 
  • #34
well a few hours and i have been alive over 27 years. i support this country in many ways and have done so thought my life, i doubt you would understand such things though.
 
  • #35
I realize this is a bit of a cheap shot, but I fear that 27 years is not quite enough. The bun is not quite done.:wink:
 
  • #36
well if you want to resort to cheap shots; i suppose i will argue that your bun has seems to have gone stale.
 
  • #37
I realize this is a bit of a cheap shot, but I fear that 27 years is not quite enough.
Hey, *I'M* 27. I have always considered myself unusally mature for my age, but by about 25 there really isn't any excuse for anyone not being an adult.
 
  • #38
like i said, i think his bun has seems to have gone stale. :wink:
 
  • #39
Happy Birthday kyleb!

Mine was yesterday.
 
  • #40
People...why is it that when someone disagrees with you, the first assumption is that they are too young or whatever? Why can you not accept that people have very good reasons to disagree sometimes?
 
  • #41
Originally posted by Zero
People...why is it that when someone disagrees with you, the first assumption is that they are too young or whatever? Why can you not accept that people have very good reasons to disagree sometimes?

NOT ME! I generally take such a patronizing tone that even children should agree with me! People who disagree with me are obviously insane!

Njorl:wink:
 
  • #42
I agree zero.


P.S Kyleb if you want to argue the bun thing then here: Someone forgot to put the sugar and flour in your dough.
 

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