Hertz Contact Stress for static condition

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of side guide rollers for a vertical gate, specifically focusing on the calculation of Hertz contact stress under static loading conditions. Participants are exploring the appropriate allowable stress criteria for these rollers, which are not frequently loaded, and are seeking guidance on static versus dynamic contact stress standards.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for Hertz contact stress and describes the loading conditions for the rollers.
  • Another participant suggests using allowable bearing yield stress as a conservative approach to avoid yielding the contact surface.
  • A different participant questions the conservativeness of using allowable bearing stress, noting that existing standards define higher allowable stresses for dynamic contacts.
  • There is a request for sources to support the proposed factors for allowable stress from the US Army Corps Engineering Manual and DIN standards.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate allowable stress for static conditions, with some advocating for conservative estimates while others reference higher values from existing standards. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to determining allowable stress.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the appropriate allowable stress criteria, and there are references to specific standards that may not fully address static loading conditions.

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Hi all,

I am designing a set of side guide rollers for a vertical gate. There are four rollers on the gate (two on each side), and the rollers are designed for jamming load condition (they are not loaded most of the time). When jamming happens, one top roller and one bottom roller (on the opposite side of the jammed top roller) will be in contact with the rail, resisting tilting moment caused by hoist load. I was able to calculate hertz contact stress on rollers from Roark's as follows:

stress = 0.798*sqrt(p/(Kd*Ce))

where p is applied load, Kd is equal to roller diameter, and Ce is some constant based on poisson's ratio and young's modulus of roller/rail material.

I am not sure though, what my allowable stress is in this case. I was able to find some criteria and standards that define allowable contact stress for wheels such as DIN 19704 (german), US Army Corps Engineering Manual EM 1110-2-2703, but the allowable stress defined in these standards seem to be for dynamic contacts.

The rollers that I'm designing is not going to be loaded repeatedly (maybe once in 5 years or so) and I think I need allowable static contact stress. Does anyone know how to approach this...??

Thanks a million!
 
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servaa: Assuming you do not want the contact surface to yield, I think you could use the allowable bearing yield stress, which you could assume to be 1.5 times the allowable tensile yield stress. Or if you want to be more certain to not yield the contact surface, I think you could use the tensile (or compressive) yield strength.
 
nvn,

Thanks for info. Could you tell me what your source is..? Using allowable bearing stress seems to be a bit too conservative, as the allowable stresses defined in the standards that I mentioned are quite higher than those (2~2.5 times yield strength for USACE and 1.8 times ultimate strength for DIN standard).

Thanks!
 
I don't have a good reference for that.
 
may I know where I can find the 2.5 factor in USACE I mean section...

thanks

servaa said:
nvn,

Thanks for info. Could you tell me what your source is..? Using allowable bearing stress seems to be a bit too conservative, as the allowable stresses defined in the standards that I mentioned are quite higher than those (2~2.5 times yield strength for USACE and 1.8 times ultimate strength for DIN standard).

Thanks!
 

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