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The discussion focuses on the application of the Doppler Effect in radar guns, specifically examining two equations for perceived frequency: f' = (c + Vr/c) x f and f' = f (1 + Vr/c). The latter is confirmed as the correct equation, as the units in the former do not match. The conversation also addresses how radar guns utilize the frequency change to calculate the speed of an object, emphasizing the need to derive the appropriate equation for this calculation.

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Alright. Physics Internal. I am investigating a physics principle applied into a practical way. Radar Guns and the Doppler Effect. Now the issue is, firstly, that I have encountered two equations to give me the perceived frequency of a wave with a moving observer and stationary source. I am not sure if they are one and the same.
Here they are:
f' = (c+Vr/c) x f
and
f' = f (1 + Vr/c)

Vr = velocity of moving observer
c = velocity of wave
fi = perceived frequency.

My last issue, is that i have examined the physics behind the double doppler effect, this is the principle the radar gun works on. However what I need to know is how the radar gun turns the changed frequency it receives back (from the object it is trying to calculate speed of) into calculating the speed of the object? How would i derive this equation?

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I am not sure if they are one and the same.
Here they are:
f' = (c+Vr/c) x f
and
f' = f (1 + Vr/c)
You can check the units - they do not match in one of those equations. Units in correct equations always match.

My last issue, is that i have examined the physics behind the double doppler effect, this is the principle the radar gun works on. However what I need to know is how the radar gun turns the changed frequency it receives back (from the object it is trying to calculate speed of) into calculating the speed of the object? How would i derive this equation?
Assume that that the receiver (the car) emits the same frequency again, and calculate the frequency the initial emitter (the radar gun) receives. You can solve this formula for the velocity.
 
The first equation is not correct, unless you intended to write ## f' = \frac {c + V_r} {c} f ##, when it is equivalent to the correct second equation.

I am unsure what you are asking about, though. Do you need to know how this equation is derived?
 

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