Higher Level Math for IPhO?

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The discussion centers around the level of mathematics required for the International Physics Olympiad (IPhO). Participants explore the necessity of various mathematical concepts, including calculus, vectors, differential equations, and multivariable calculus, in relation to preparing for the competition.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that basic knowledge of calculus and vectors is essential for deriving results in IPhO.
  • Others question whether advanced topics like differential equations, vector calculus, and multivariable calculus are truly necessary or if they are merely supplementary.
  • One participant suggests consulting a physics teacher or coach for guidance on the required math level based on individual training circumstances.
  • Another participant shares resources, including a syllabus and problem-solving handouts, to aid in preparation for IPhO.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of advanced mathematical topics for IPhO, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying assumptions about the relevance of certain mathematical concepts and the context of individual preparation methods, which may influence the perceived necessity of these topics.

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What level of math is needed for IPhO? I know that basic knowledge of calculus (basic differentiation and integration) and vectors (addition, dot product, cross product, etc) is definitely required, even just to derive basic results. However I've heard that you need other stuff as well such as differential equations, vector calculus, multivariable calculus, etc. Are these actually necessary, or are they just gimmicky things that you can learn for IPhO but don't actually need?
 
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What is IPhO?
International Physics Organization?
 
WheatNeat said:
... or are they just gimmicky things ...
Gimmicky things?!
 
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Choppy said:
What is IPhO?
International Physics Organization?
International Physics Olympiad
 
WheatNeat said:
What level of math is needed for IPhO? I know that basic knowledge of calculus (basic differentiation and integration) and vectors (addition, dot product, cross product, etc) is definitely required, even just to derive basic results. However I've heard that you need other stuff as well such as differential equations, vector calculus, multivariable calculus, etc. Are these actually necessary, or are they just gimmicky things that you can learn for IPhO but don't actually need?
Are you training for IPhO on your own, or are you a member of a team? If a member of a team, is there a physics teacher who serves as a coach? If so, your coach should be the best resource to ask. So what is your situation?
 
CrysPhys said:
Are you training for IPhO on your own, or are you a member of a team? If a member of a team, is there a physics teacher who serves as a coach? If so, your coach should be the best resource to ask. So what is your situation?
I am training for the IPhO on my own.
 
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