Homology of spheres from the M-V sequence

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Mayer-Vietoris sequence in reduced homology, specifically regarding the homology of spheres, particularly S^1 and S^0. Participants explore the implications of reduced homology and its relationship to connected components and relative homology.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the reduced homology of S^0 is zero in all degrees, leading to a conclusion about the homology of S^1.
  • Another participant points out that S^0 consists of two points, suggesting that its reduced 0-th homology is non-trivial.
  • A participant questions the validity of the formula for reduced homology, suggesting it should hold for relative homology instead.
  • It is clarified that the formula for reduced homology does not apply as it does for unreduced homology, and that reduced homology behaves differently with respect to connected components.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the clarification regarding the relationship between unreduced and reduced homology.
  • There is a confirmation that the formula for relative homology holds under certain conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the properties of reduced homology, particularly in relation to S^0 and its implications for S^1. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore different interpretations and applications of homological concepts.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the properties of reduced homology and its relationship to connected components, as well as the application of the Mayer-Vietoris sequence in this context.

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Hi everyone.

Take the open sets A=S^1 - N and B=S^1 - S, that is, the circle minus the north and south pole resp.. Noting that AnB=S^0 and that A and B are contractible, the Mayer-Vietoris sequence in reduced homology for this decomposition writes,

\ldots \rightarrow \widetilde{H}_n(\mathbb{S}^0)\rightarrow 0\oplus 0\rightarrow \widetilde{H}_n(\mathbb{S}^1)\rightarrow\widetilde{H}_{n-1}(\mathbb{S}^0)\rightarrow 0\oplus 0\rightarrow\ldots

But in reduced homology, \widetilde{H}_n(\mathbb{S}^0)=0 in all degree, so we conclude that \widetilde{H}_n(\mathbb{S}^1)=0 in all degrees.

But this is not so because \widetilde{H}_1(\mathbb{S}^1)=\mathbb{Z}.

So where am I mistaken in the above?
 
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Hi quasar987!

Remember that S^0 consists of two points (connected components), so its reduced 0-th homology is non-trivial.
 
But's isn't the reduced homology of a space equal to the the direct sum of the reduced homology of its connected components, so that \widetilde{H}_n(\mathbb{S}^0)=\widetilde{H}_n({-1})\oplus\widetilde{H}_n({1})=0\oplus 0=0??
 
No, that is only true for unreduced homology (for reduced homology it's true if you take the wedge sum instead of the disjoint sum).
Unreduced homology is exactly like the reduced homology but with an additional Z summand in the degree 0 term. Since H_0(S^0)=\mathbb{Z}^2, one must have \widetilde{H}_0(S^0)=\mathbb{Z}.
 
Thanks a lot for point that out yyat. I had convinced myself that the formula H_*(X)=\bigoplus_{\alpha} H_*(X_{\alpha}) held for reduced homology as well. I am right in thinking it holds for relative homology though? Namely, H_*(X,A)=\bigoplus_{\alpha} H_*(X_{\alpha},X_{\alpha}\cap A) ?
 
quasar987 said:
Thanks a lot for point that out yyat. I had convinced myself that the formula H_*(X)=\bigoplus_{\alpha} H_*(X_{\alpha}) held for reduced homology as well. I am right in thinking it holds for relative homology though? Namely, H_*(X,A)=\bigoplus_{\alpha} H_*(X_{\alpha},X_{\alpha}\cap A) ?

Yes. It also follows from the relative Mayer-Vietoris sequence in the case of finite disjoint unions.
 

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