How Accurate Is Lucy's Measurement of Gravity in Melbourne?

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The discussion revolves around Lucy's measurement of the acceleration due to gravity in Melbourne, where she drops a ball from a height of 1.00 m and records the time taken for the fall. The participants are examining how to calculate the uncertainty in her measurement of gravity based on her timing results and the uncertainties in distance and time measurements.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to apply relevant equations, such as those related to motion under gravity, and question the appropriateness of the chosen equations for calculating acceleration and uncertainty.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations, particularly regarding the propagation of error and its relevance to the problem.
  • There is a mention of the average timing and its associated uncertainty, as well as the potential discrepancies between calculated acceleration and provided multiple-choice options.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider error propagation, but there is no clear consensus on how to approach the calculations or the implications of the timing variations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the variations in timing results appear significant compared to the stated uncertainties, leading to questions about the expectations of the problem and the validity of the measurements taken.

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Homework Statement


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Lucy is measuring the acceleration due to gravity in Melbourne by dropping a ball through a vertical distance 1.00 m and timing how long it takes.
The ball starts at rest, and Lucy times its fall four times. The results are: 0.47 s, 0.42 s, 0.48 s and 0.41 s. The uncertainty in her distance measurement is 1 cm and theuncertainty in the timer is 0.01 s. What is the uncertainty in the value of g that Lucy calculates?

Select one:
a. at least 0.01 ms−2 and at most 0.03ms−2.
b. more than 0.03 ms−2but at most ms−2.
c. more than 0.1 ms−2 but at most 0.4 ms−2.
d. more than 0.4 ms−2 but at most 0.6 ms−2.
e. more than 0.6ms−2 but at most 2ms−2.http://asoeonline.edu.au/theme/image.php/essential/core/1427682940/i/grade_correct

Homework Equations


I am not sure about the equations to use, but I think that these ones might help:
GPE = mgh
F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Average of time values = 0.45s
Uncertainty = 0.45s +/- 0.04 s

Distance uncertainty = 1m +/- 0.01mThis is as far as I go. How do I calculate the g values from here on?

Thanks in advance :)
 
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The experiment involves finding an acceleration given a distance and a time. The initial velocity is zero. The final velocity is unknown.

Are you familiar with the SUVAT equations or similar? One of the standard equations is more useful than the others.
 
s = ut + (0.5*a)*(t^2)
0.99 = 1/2 * a * (0.41)^2
a = 11.78 m/s^2,

Which is way "off" the multiple choice answers
 
It looks to me like they want you to calculate the propagation of error, not necessarily the acceleration itself. There are some examples http://www.rit.edu/cos/uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart2.html .
 
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Ruturaj Vaidya said:

Homework Statement


[/B]
Lucy is measuring the acceleration due to gravity in Melbourne by dropping a ball through a vertical distance 1.00 m and timing how long it takes.
The ball starts at rest, and Lucy times its fall four times. The results are: 0.47 s, 0.42 s, 0.48 s and 0.41 s. The uncertainty in her distance measurement is 1 cm and theuncertainty in the timer is 0.01 s. What is the uncertainty in the value of g that Lucy calculates?

Select one:
a. at least 0.01 ms−2 and at most 0.03ms−2.
b. more than 0.03 ms−2but at most ms−2.
c. more than 0.1 ms−2 but at most 0.4 ms−2.
d. more than 0.4 ms−2 but at most 0.6 ms−2.
e. more than 0.6ms−2 but at most 2ms−2.http://asoeonline.edu.au/theme/image.php/essential/core/1427682940/i/grade_correct

Homework Equations


I am not sure about the equations to use, but I think that these ones might help:
GPE = mgh
F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Average of time values = 0.45s
Uncertainty = 0.45s +/- 0.04 s

Distance uncertainty = 1m +/- 0.01mThis is as far as I go. How do I calculate the g values from here on?

Thanks in advance :)

I might be tempted to give this question a miss. The variations in timings are much greater than could be caused by the uncertainties given. I wouldn't like to guess exactly what the question setter intended!

You may be expected to ignore the actual results, but that seems absurd to me.
 

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