Acceleration of gravity measured

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The discussion revolves around measuring the acceleration of gravity using a simple pendulum, with the period and length provided. Participants are exploring the relationship defined by the equation T= 2pi sqrt(l/g) and the implications of uncertainties in their measurements.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to manipulate the equation to solve for g and are discussing the calculation of uncertainties. There is a focus on the correct application of arithmetic and the importance of parentheses in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified errors in calculations and are seeking clarification on the correct approach to determining uncertainties. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods for calculating resultant error, with references to worst-case scenarios versus statistical approaches.

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Participants are working under the constraints of provided measurements and uncertainties, and there is an emphasis on the need for clarity in mathematical expressions to avoid errors in results.

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Homework Statement


A simple pendulum is used to measure the acceleration of gravity using T= 2pi sqrt(l/g). The period was measured to be 1.24 +-0.02s and the length, l, to be 0.381 +-0.002m. What is the resulting value for g with it's absolute and relative uncertainty?

Homework Equations


T= 2pi sqrt(l/g)

The Attempt at a Solution


1.24= 2pi sqrt(.381/g)--------g=.381m/3.794m/s^2
 
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Robb said:

Homework Statement


A simple pendulum is used to measure the acceleration of gravity using T= 2pi sqrt(l/g). The period was measured to be 1.24 +-0.02s and the length, l, to be 0.381 +-0.002m. What is the resulting value for g with it's absolute and relative uncertainty?

Homework Equations


T= 2pi sqrt(l/g)

The Attempt at a Solution


1.24= 2pi sqrt(.381/g)--------g=.381m/3.794m/s^2
You seem to have made an error in that calculation. Please post all your steps.
With regard to the error calculation, you need to show an attempt at that too.
There are two different ways of determining resultant error, and which is correct depends on what the answer will be used for. An engineer mostly takes 'worst case', i.e. the extreme possibilities of the result given the ranges of the input errors. In other environments, a more statistical approach is used, and the formula involves root-sum-square. Which have you been taught?
 
T= 2pi sqrt(l/g)
1.24= 2pi sqrt(.381/g)
(1.24/2pi)=sqrt(.381/g)
(1.24/2pi)^2=.381/g
g=.381/3.794
g=.100m/s^2

I assume the uncertainty to be 0.002+0.02=0.022. I believe the relative uncertainty would be determined after I have found the value for g.
 
Robb said:
T= 2pi sqrt(l/g)
1.24= 2pi sqrt(.381/g)
(1.24/2pi)=sqrt(.381/g)
(1.24/2pi)^2=.381/g
g=.381/3.794
g=.100m/s^2

I assume the uncertainty to be 0.002+0.02=0.022. I believe the relative uncertainty would be determined after I have found the value for g.
You've made a mistake in your arithmetic.

You have calculated [(1.24 / 2)*π]2 = 0.381 / g, rather than [1.24 / (2π)]2 = 0.381 / g
 
I guess I'm not sure the difference? They both are both equal: g=.381/3.794. Correct?
 
Robb said:
I guess I'm not sure the difference? They both are both equal: g=.381/3.794. Correct?
No, they don't.

(1.24 / 2) * π = 0.62 * π =1.95

1.24 / (2π) = 1.24 / (6.28) = 0.197

When you square each result, you get quite different numbers

You've got to learn how to use parentheses correctly in your arithmetic.
 
Wow! I guess I needed another set of parenthesis for the 2pi! Thanks so much for the help.
 
Robb said:
Wow! I guess I needed another set of parenthesis for the 2pi! Thanks so much for the help.
It makes quite a difference in the value of g calculated from this experiment.
 

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