How are entangled particles captured and contained?

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The discussion revolves around the capture and containment of entangled particles, particularly focusing on the methods used in experiments involving entangled photons and other particles. Participants explore the nature of entanglement, measurement, and the implications of quantum mechanics in these processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention that entangled particles can be emitted during processes like pi meson decay, questioning how scientists anticipate capturing them.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of particles and their properties, with some arguing that a particle's position does not exist until it is measured, leading to questions about the existence of entangled photons before measurement.
  • One participant describes the use of parametric down-conversion to generate entangled photons, noting that these pairs are produced at random times, requiring specific detection equipment.
  • Another participant suggests that ions can be trapped in an ion trap and then entangled, allowing them to remain stationary for experimentation.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of measurement on quantum states, with one noting that measuring one property does not necessarily collapse all other properties into definite states, referencing the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the nature of entangled particles and the implications of measurement, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the fundamental nature of existence and measurement in quantum mechanics.

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Participants highlight limitations in understanding the timing and methods of capturing entangled particles, as well as the complexities of measurement and its effects on quantum states, without resolving these issues.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring quantum mechanics, entanglement, and experimental physics, particularly in the context of capturing and measuring quantum states.

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I'll admit I have a very small understanding of this phenomena in general. I read once that entangled particles are emitted as pi mesons decay. What I am unclear about is how do scientists know when to be ready to capture them and how do they contain them? Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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Doesn't the position of the particles (among all its other properties) in question not exist until detected? Then how is it detected? Is it a fact that you have a particle before you perform the appropriate measurements which produce results you compare with that particles' entangled partner? But then before you make those appropriate measurements the particle has a definite position, which seems to me that all its other properties would be definite too.
Wouldn't when you make some measurement on the 'particle' then it will appear and collapse to one of its possible states for each of its properties?

Because what I don't understand is say entangled photons are produced they fly off in opposite directions, for example? But do they really exist then? or is it the case when a measurement is performed one can say they definitely exist?
 
waylon318 said:
I'll admit I have a very small understanding of this phenomena in general. I read once that entangled particles are emitted as pi mesons decay. What I am unclear about is how do scientists know when to be ready to capture them and how do they contain them? Any help would be much appreciated.
In modern photon entanglement experiments process of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_down_conversion" is used to generate stream of entangled photons.
As wikipedia article says entangled pair is generated at random times and therefore you have to use equipment that registers two simultaneous clicks at different detectors.
 
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waylon318 said:
I'll admit I have a very small understanding of this phenomena in general. I read once that entangled particles are emitted as pi mesons decay. What I am unclear about is how do scientists know when to be ready to capture them and how do they contain them? Any help would be much appreciated.

Well, it depends on what you mean. One can for example trap a few ions in an ion trap and then entangle them. The ions will just sit there as pearls on a string.
 
waylon318 said:
I'll admit I have a very small understanding of this phenomena in general. I read once that entangled particles are emitted as pi mesons decay. What I am unclear about is how do scientists know when to be ready to capture them and how do they contain them? Any help would be much appreciated.

Welcome to PhysicsForums, waylon318!

As zonde says, most entangled pair experiments use light. You shine a laser through a special crystal, and most photons go straight through. About 1 in a million are transformed to an entangled pair which escape off angle slightly. There are special apparati to trap those and funnel them to be experimented upon.
 
StevieTNZ said:
Wouldn't when you make some measurement on the 'particle' then it will appear and collapse to one of its possible states for each of its properties?

Because what I don't understand is say entangled photons are produced they fly off in opposite directions, for example? But do they really exist then? or is it the case when a measurement is performed one can say they definitely exist?

Of course, the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle always applies. Knowledge of one property implies complete uncertainty to its non-commuting partner. Also: it is possible to measure polarization without making either a position or momentum observation - and therefore there is no collapse for either of those.
 
Ah ok. I had always thought even if you measured one property of a quantum system, all its other properties would stop being a superposition too (of course, only one of position or momentum would stop being a superposition - due to the uncertainty principle).
 

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