How Are Partial Derivatives Calculated for Multivariable Functions?

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The discussion centers on the calculation of partial derivatives for multivariable functions, specifically focusing on the concept of treating variables as constants during differentiation. Participants explore the implications of this approach and its relation to partial differential equations.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that to calculate a partial derivative, one treats the other variables as constants, which leads to a derivative of zero for those variables.
  • Examples are provided to illustrate how to differentiate functions with respect to one variable while keeping the other constant.
  • There is a mention of the difference between partial derivatives and total derivatives, with a focus on the implications of treating variables as constants.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the relationship between understanding partial derivatives and the ability to tackle partial differential equations.
  • One participant suggests that understanding partial derivatives is a foundational step towards grasping partial differential equations, providing an example of a simple partial differential equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of calculating partial derivatives by treating other variables as constants. However, there is no consensus on the broader implications for understanding partial differential equations, as some express uncertainty about the transition from partial derivatives to partial differential equations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in transitioning from partial derivatives to partial differential equations, nor does it clarify the assumptions underlying the treatment of variables as constants.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and individuals interested in calculus, particularly those learning about multivariable functions and their derivatives, as well as those looking to understand the foundational concepts leading to partial differential equations.

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Its about functions with two or more variables ?

Partial Derivatives in Calculus

Let f(x,y) be a function with two variables.

If we keep y constant and differentiate f (assuming f is differentiable) with respect to the variable x, we obtain what is called the partial derivative of f with respect to x

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If we keep x constant and differentiate f (assuming f is differentiable) with respect to the variable y, we obtain what is called the partial derivative of f with respect to y
How do you keep this x and y constant , i don't understand .
 
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kupid said:
Its about functions with two or more variables ?

How do you keep this x and y constant , i don't understand .

Hi kupid,

It means we treat them as constants, such as $3$.
Recall that the derivative of a constant is 0.
So if we consider x to be constant and differentiate it with respect to y, the result is 0.

To give a couple of examples:
$$\pd{}y x = 0 \\ \pd{}y (3x^2y) = 3x^2 \\ \pd{}y (xy^2) = 2xy$$

In reality x might actually be a function of y, but that's the difference between a total derivative and a partial derivative.
For a partial derivative we treat x just like any other constant, and its derivative is 0.
 
I like Serena ,

Thanks a lot :-)

From here is it possible to understand partial differential equations ?
 
kupid said:
I like Serena ,

Thanks a lot :-)

From here is it possible to understand partial differential equations ?

Well, that's a step up from just understanding what a partial derivative is.
But sure, why not.As an example, suppose we have the function $u(x,y)$.
And the partial differential equation
$$\pd{}x u(x,y)=0$$
Since we'd treat $y$ as a constant, the solution is some function of $y$.
That is, the solution is:
$$u(x,y) = f(y)$$
where $f$ is any arbitrary function of $y$.

We can see that if we take the partial derivative with respect to x, we will indeed get 0.
 
Thanks
 

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