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How are topological spaces used in physics?
The discussion revolves around the application of topological spaces in physics, exploring both theoretical and practical implications. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with topology and its relevance to physical concepts, including black hole theory and Hilbert spaces.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the applications of topological spaces in physics. There are competing views on the significance and complexity of these applications, particularly in relation to black hole theory.
Some discussions highlight limitations in understanding and definitions, particularly regarding the relationship between mathematical topology and its physical applications. There are unresolved questions about the depth of existing research in the area.
Topology is relatively young and it develops rapidly. I'm not 100% sure whether topology as a whole or in parts has applications in physics, i.e. how "topological" these subjects really are:Josh0768 said:How are topological spaces used in physics?
What do you know about topological spaces? And what do you know about physics?Josh0768 said:How are topological spaces used in physics?
Quantitatively and conceptually, I know about as much as first year physics student physics-wise. Regarding topology, I hardly even know what it means.martinbn said:What do you know about topological spaces? And what do you know about physics?
Topology in its basics plays an important role in physics, simply because Hilbert spaces where physics mostly takes place are topological vector spaces.Josh0768 said:Quantitatively and conceptually, I know about as much as first year physics student physics-wise. Regarding topology, I hardly even know what it means.
Didn't convince me. A bit too simple and 3D for my taste, and partly wrong.jedishrfu said:there's been some work in applying point set topology to black hole theory.
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/Numbers/Math/Mathematical_Thinking/blackhl.htm
It would only locally be closed or open. Additionally, the EH is hardly a real life hyperspace.If it [EH] attaches to the exterior, then the known universe is topologically a closed set with respect to the black hole. If it [EH] attaches to the interior, then the known universe is topologically an open set.
Is that it? I would hardly call it work applying point set topology to black holes. All it says is that the outside of the EH is an open set, if you include the boundary it is a closed set. Same for the interior. That is trivial. Even the definition of a manifold to describe any spacetime (black hole or not) needs more topology than that.jedishrfu said:there's been some work in applying point set topology to black hole theory.
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/Numbers/Math/Mathematical_Thinking/blackhl.htm
Yes, but in this physical context "topology" means something else than the mathematical term.Spinnor said:Edit, the Google search should have been for "topological spaces" but the search "topology in physics" might be of interest as well.
fresh_42 said:Yes, but in this physical context "topology" means something else than the mathematical term.