How big are the health effects of fluorocarbons?

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The discussion revolves around the health effects of fluorocarbons, particularly in the context of camping gear such as tents. Participants explore concerns about the presence of perfluorinated compounds (PFCs) in outdoor equipment and their potential health implications.

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  • One participant expresses concern about the health effects of fluorocarbons in tents and questions whether these effects are significant compared to urban pollution.
  • Another participant suggests that the health effects of being in a tent may be negligible, implying that it could be healthier than being in a polluted city environment.
  • A participant provides technical information about fluorocarbons, noting their low affinity for most compounds and their non-bioaccumulative nature, suggesting that ingestion would not pose a health risk.
  • Concerns are raised specifically about perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), which is highlighted as a criticized compound within the fluorocarbon category.
  • Another participant shares a public health perspective on PFOA, noting its persistence in the environment and its ban for industrial use in the US, while clarifying that the information pertains to specific fluorocarbons rather than all of them.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the health effects of fluorocarbons, with some expressing concerns while others downplay the risks. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact of these compounds on health.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the specific health risks associated with different types of fluorocarbons, as well as the varying contexts in which they may be encountered. The discussion also reflects a dependence on individual interpretations of available information.

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Hello!

I love camping, all year around.
However lately I've been hearing much about the hazardous effects of flourocarbons and this got me wondering... Since I didn't know if my tent contained any so called PFC's I mailed the producer and got this answer:

"Our tents are not yet PFC-free. They are still equipped with C6 chemistry. However, there are no health concerns for the users of the tents. The impregnating agent is more critical during the production process, as there is the greatest risk of entering into the Waters."

Maybe this is true.. I don't know. So it would be interesting to hear your opinions on this subject.
Should I worry about the health effects from tenting? Or is this effect so small that it's probably healthier to be hiking in my tent since I get away from the polluted city air?

Thanks!
 
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Kontilera said:
Or is this effect so small that it's probably healthier to be hiking in my tent since I get away from the polluted city air?

That would be my bet.
 
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Fluorocarbons typically have low affinities toward most compounds. There's an entire area of study called fluorochemistry, which should give you a hint that it is a very important class of study. They are used in chemical engineering as well as on many things, with the one you most likely see in your daily life like frying pans. Fluorocarbons are lipophobic and hydrophobic at the same time, which rejects water and fats and prevent them from sticking on your frying pan.

Fluorocarbons (fluoroalkanes) are not bioaccumulate. If you were to consume fluorocarbons, my best bet is that they will just come out as human wastes. You should check the SDS of each specific fluorocarbon you are looking at to make sure they are okay. Most commercial products are fluoroalkanes. Other type of fluorocarbons such as fluoroalkenes and fluoroalkynes are toxic.

In more simpler terms, you'll be fine.
 
Public health viewpoint on PFOA: https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/pubhealth/hat/noms/pfoa/index.html

Note: this link deals with 2 fluorocarbons, not all of them. Per the link, these compounds are very persistent and are commonly found in tiny amounts the blood plasma in the US. PFOA is banned for industrial use in the US.
 
Thank you so much!
 

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