How big do we need for comsological principle?

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In summary, the universe is homogenous and isotropic on a large scale, approximately 80 Mega Parsecs. There is a gradual transition towards homogeneity as the scale increases. The border between homogenous and non-homogenous regions is not clearly defined and its establishment is still a topic of discussion. The current estimate is not clear, but is believed to be relatively recent, possibly as recent as the Sloan Digital Sky Survey. A diagram on Ned Wright's site depicts this transition.
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When we say the universe is homogenous and isotropic . How many Mega PArsecs are we talking about? Preusmably we all agree its not homogenous or isotropic on small scales. So where is the border and how when was it established? Is the current estimate, whatever it is, as recent as Sloan Digital Sky survey or much older than that?
 
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How many Mega PArsecs are we talking about?
There's a diagram on Ned Wright's site. It's a gradual transition - the larger the scale, the more homogeneous.
 
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skydivephil said:
When we say the universe is homogenous and isotropic . How many Mega PArsecs are we talking about? Preusmably we all agree its not homogenous or isotropic on small scales. So where is the border and how when was it established? Is the current estimate, whatever it is, as recent as Sloan Digital Sky survey or much older than that?
Roughly 80Mpc or so.
 
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Agh thanks for that, wanted it for my cosmology exams which was yesterday ,think I aced it and you guys have been enormous help in general, Physics forums rock
 
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The size of the observable universe is approximately 93 billion light years in diameter, which is equivalent to about 880 Mega Parsecs. This is the scale at which we can observe the universe, and it is considered to be homogeneous and isotropic on this large scale.

However, on smaller scales, such as within galaxies and galaxy clusters, the universe is not homogeneous and isotropic. This is due to the presence of structures such as galaxies, stars, and planets, which create variations in density and distribution.

The border between the homogenous and isotropic universe and the non-homogenous and non-isotropic universe is not clearly defined. It is a gradual transition as we move from larger to smaller scales. The exact scale at which this transition occurs is still a topic of debate among scientists.

The current estimate of the size of the observable universe is based on data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey, as well as other cosmological observations and models. However, the concept of the homogenous and isotropic universe has been around for much longer, dating back to the early 20th century when scientists first began to study the structure of the universe.

In summary, the size of the universe that we consider to be homogenous and isotropic is approximately 93 billion light years, or 880 Mega Parsecs. This estimate is based on current observations and models, but the concept of a homogenous and isotropic universe has been studied for much longer. The border between the homogenous and isotropic universe and the non-homogenous and non-isotropic universe is a gradual transition and is still being studied by scientists.
 

1. How is the cosmological principle defined?

The cosmological principle is a fundamental assumption in cosmology that states the universe is homogeneous (uniform) and isotropic (the same in all directions) on a large scale. This means that the universe looks the same no matter where you are in it or which direction you look.

2. Why is the cosmological principle important in studying the universe?

The cosmological principle is important because it allows us to simplify our understanding of the universe by assuming that it is uniform and isotropic on a large scale. This makes it easier to develop theories and models to explain the universe's behavior and evolution.

3. How is the cosmological principle related to the Big Bang theory?

The Big Bang theory is based on the cosmological principle, as it assumes the universe was initially homogeneous and isotropic before expanding and evolving into its current state. The observations and evidence supporting the Big Bang theory also support the cosmological principle.

4. Is the cosmological principle universally accepted by scientists?

While the cosmological principle is widely accepted by scientists, it is not without debate. Some theories, such as the fractal universe theory, challenge the assumption of homogeneity on a large scale. However, the majority of evidence and observations support the cosmological principle.

5. Can the cosmological principle be tested?

Yes, the cosmological principle can be tested through observations and measurements of the universe's large-scale structure. If the universe is truly homogeneous and isotropic, then we would expect to see similar structures and behaviors in all directions and at different points in the universe. This has been confirmed by numerous studies, further supporting the validity of the cosmological principle.

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