How can conservation of momentum explain the behavior of Newton's cradle?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the behavior of Newton's cradle through the lens of conservation laws, specifically momentum and energy. The original poster presents a scenario involving multiple balls and queries the underlying principles that govern their motion upon collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between momentum and energy conservation in the context of Newton's cradle. Some question what additional factors might influence the observed behavior beyond these conservation laws.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the principles at play, with some participants suggesting that the behavior cannot be fully explained by momentum and energy conservation alone. References to external sources and differing interpretations indicate a productive dialogue, though no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem, including the need for additional conditions such as the propagation of shock waves through the system, which may not be immediately apparent in basic explanations.

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Homework Statement


so, i have a problem. see the pic
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4628/aughhm9.png
the question is. if we have, for example 10 balls standin like that, if we move the ball which is on the right, only one will move, the left one. if we move two of them from the right, two of them will move on the left also.

Homework Equations



Ft = mv to satisfy the conservation of momentum

The Attempt at a Solution



the solution is that something else is satisfied, i know that the momentum is satisfied but something is missing. please help :-)

thanks in forward
 
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Mechanical energy is also conserved.
 
I don't get your question. What exactly are you asking?
 
From Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_cradle

The behaviour of the pendulum follows from the conservation of momentum and energy only in the case of two pendula. Indeed, if there are r pendula there are also r unknown velocities to be calculated from the initial conditions. An additional condition for the observed outcome is that a shock wave has to propagate dispersionfree through the chain.
 
It is certainly true that it takes more than simple conservation of momentum and energy to derive the observed behavior of Newton's cradle. Most textbooks pull a fast one and just assume that however many balls move after the collision, they all move together. (And no rebounding.)

Using this you can show that the number of balls swung on the left will equal the number of balls that will emerge on the right.
 

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