How can I design an efficient air ring main system for an aquarium?

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The discussion revolves around designing an efficient air ring main system for an aquarium, focusing on the distribution of air supply to multiple air stones. Participants explore various configurations and suggestions to achieve an even air supply, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of the setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • Simon describes his initial setup and the transition to a ring main system to mitigate pressure drop-off between air stones.
  • One participant notes that the air supply still follows a sequential path, potentially causing drop-off issues, and suggests using smaller diameter tubing for stones with excessive air supply.
  • Another participant proposes using a manifold to distribute air evenly, recommending that it have a cross-sectional area greater than the sum of the air stones' requirements.
  • A suggestion is made to adjust the depth of certain air stones to test sensitivity to elevation, which could affect air distribution.
  • Simon mentions using small 5mm silicon tubing and expresses a desire for a cost-effective solution, while acknowledging that a manifold could be effective.
  • Simon reports improved air flow after reconfiguring the ring main based on feedback received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various suggestions and configurations, but there is no consensus on the optimal design. Multiple competing views on the best approach to achieve even air supply remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific configurations and the potential impact of tubing diameter and length on air distribution, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Hi there

I don't know if this is the correct forum to be posting in, but I am sure that with all the expert physics gurus on here, someone can help me with this basic project.

I am trying to build an air ring main system for an aquarium.

I previously had the system setup as follows:

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1549/ringmain1.png

The Brown Box represents the Air Compressor. The Blue Boxes represent the Air Stones.

A friend suggested I design a ringmain for better performance, as I was going to be experiencing 'drop off' in the pressure between the first and last air stones.

I therefore made the following setup:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6917/ringmain2.png

What I am finding now is that I am getting increased air supply through air stones 2 and 7.

Any suggestions on how to best design the ring main in order to supply an even air supply to all air stones.

Is the fact that I have dual supply lines an issue? Is there a conflict caused at the red indications on the diagram?

Thanks
Simon
 
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If you look again at your two pictures you will notice that the air supply goes to stone 1, then 2, then 3 for both, so you still get the dropoff from first to last stones with the air ring. All things being equal the length of tube between the dual supply lines and the tube between stones 4 and 5 are superfluous.

If stones 2 and 7 exhibit too much air then use a smaller diameter tube from the main line to these two stones.
 
Compressed air or water - you would normally see such a system using a manifold to distribute the flow (pressure) evenly to the drops.

My (intuitive) suggestion... Try a manifold that has slightly more cross sectional area than the sum of all the drops.
 
Quick check on sensitivity to elevation: Put 2 & 7 slightly deeper than others and observe result.?

Any suggestions on how to best design the ring main in order to supply an even air supply to all air stones.

I would think you'd want them all same distance from compresor

feed compressor's two output tubes into middle of your lines 1-4 and 8-5, using equal length tubes.
 
Hi guys,

Thanks for the responses.

256bits - I am using as small a pipe as is possible, 5mm silicon tubing.

Bandit127 - I am sure that a manifold or multivalve pump would work perfectly, but I was trying for as cheap a setup as possible ;-)

Jim hardy - Thanks, your suggestion seems to have worked. I have now recofigured the ringmain as follows:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6917/ringmain2.png

I seem to be getting much better and even air flow from all air stones currently.

Si
 
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