How can I find the range of a hyperbolic curve using its graph?

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The discussion revolves around finding the range of the hyperbolic curve represented by the function y = 1/x using its graph. Participants explore the interpretation of the graph, its asymptotic behavior, and the implications for understanding the range, particularly for novice learners.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the difficulty in interpreting the graph of y = 1/x and asks how to determine its range.
  • Another participant states the domain as x ∈ ℝ, x ≠ 0 and the range as y ∈ ℝ, y ≠ 0, questioning the interpretation of the graph.
  • A participant reflects on the graph's appearance in quadrants 1 and 3, emphasizing that it does not cross the lines x = 0 and y = 0, and mentions the textbook range as (-∞, 0) U (0, ∞). They seek clarification on what the graph indicates about this range.
  • One participant explains that the absence of intersections with the lines x = 0 and y = 0 indicates vertical and horizontal asymptotes, respectively, which exclude these values from the domain and range.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for video resources over textbooks for understanding the material better.
  • One participant introduces the concept of the hyperbolic curve and discusses the relationship between y = 1/x and the hyperbola defined by x² - y² = 1, mentioning the rotation of axes as a method to visualize this connection.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the graph and its implications for the range. There is no consensus on the best approach to clarify these concepts for novice learners, and multiple perspectives on learning resources are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the interpretation of the graph and its implications for understanding the range, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge for novice learners.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning about hyperbolic functions, educators seeking to understand common student misconceptions, and anyone interested in the graphical interpretation of mathematical concepts.

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Find the range using the graph of y.

y = 1/x

This function is weird. It has a curve in quadrants 1 and 3 that does not cross the lines y = 0 and x = 0.

How can I determine the range of such a graph?
 
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domain is $x \in \mathbb{R}, \, x \ne 0$

range is $y \in \mathbb{R}, \, y \ne 0$

why so difficult to interpret the graph?[DESMOS=-10.10016694490818,9.89983305509182,-10.45,9.55]y=\frac{1}{x}[/DESMOS]
 
I know what this graph looks like. I've seen it hundreds of times but what does it mean to a novice math learner? There is a curve in quadrants 1 and 3 that does not cross the lines x = 0 and y = 0. The textbook answer is (-infinity, 0) U (0, infinity). What on the graph tells me that this is the correct range?
 
There is a curve in quadrants 1 and 3 that does not cross the lines x = 0 and y = 0.

if a graph of a function does not cross a vertical line like x = 0, then that line is a vertical asymptote ... x = 0 is excluded from the function's domain.

if a graph of a function does not cross a horizontal line like y = 0, then that line is a horizontal asymptote ... y = 0 is excluded from the function's range.

can't put it any plainer than that ... maybe you should select video(s) from the link for alternative, non-textbook explanations

https://www.google.com/search?q=ide..._eHUAhUY6GMKHSHzDhAQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=638
 
I'll seek more video help than textbooks. I can find just about anything on youtube.com. I will use this site when a video clip makes no sense.
 
RTCNTC said:
I know what this graph looks like. I've seen it hundreds of times but what does it mean to a novice math learner? There is a curve in quadrants 1 and 3 that does not cross the lines x = 0 and y = 0. The textbook answer is (-infinity, 0) U (0, infinity). What on the graph tells me that this is the correct range?

It may interest you to know that the curve:

$$y=\frac{1}{x}$$

is actually a hyperbolic curve. Consider the graph of the hyperbolic curve:

$$x^2-y^2=1$$

and its asymptotes, given by:

$$x^2=y^2$$

[DESMOS=-5,5,-1.7346053772766694,1.7346053772766694]x^2-y^2=1;x^2=y^2[/DESMOS]

It can be shown that by rotating our axes by $$\frac{\pi}{4}$$, the graphed hyperbola becomes:

$$y=\frac{1}{x}$$

I'll wait until you get to the section on rotation of axes before we explore that further. :D
 
MarkFL said:
It may interest you to know that the curve:

$$y=\frac{1}{x}$$

is actually a hyperbolic curve. Consider the graph of the hyperbolic curve:

$$x^2-y^2=1$$

and its asymptotes, given by:

$$x^2=y^2$$
It can be shown that by rotating our axes by $$\frac{\pi}{4}$$, the graphed hyperbole becomes:

$$y=\frac{1}{x}$$

I'll wait until you get to the section on rotation of axes before we explore that further. :D

Cool. Continue to answer my questions. I appreciate your guidance through my review of a great course. I will use youtube precalculus clips to review each chapter and post questions here when needed. Check your inbox.
 

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