How can I improve my career in pharmaceutical industry?

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The discussion revolves around career advancement opportunities in the pharmaceutical industry, particularly for individuals with a background in chemistry and experience in quality control. Participants explore educational paths, certifications, and potential career trajectories, including challenges and competition in the field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the benefits of pursuing a master's degree and additional certifications to enhance career prospects in the pharmaceutical industry.
  • Another participant expresses concern about limited opportunities in R&D, citing a trend of offshoring jobs and high competition for positions due to an influx of PhD graduates.
  • Some participants suggest that regulatory affairs and compliance roles may offer more stability compared to traditional R&D positions.
  • There is mention of specialized fields, such as bioanalytical specialists, which may have better job prospects but require extensive training in advanced techniques.
  • One participant argues that a four-year chemistry degree may not suffice for significant career advancement without further education or specialization.
  • Suggestions for alternative career paths include medical writing, pursuing a pharmacy degree, and becoming a clinical research associate, with varying levels of required training and certification.
  • Disagreement arises regarding the actual opportunities in regulatory affairs, with some participants doubting the availability of positions in that field.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of certifications like Six Sigma and GMP knowledge as resume boosters, as they may be standard requirements rather than distinguishing factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that opportunities in R&D are limited and that a four-year chemistry degree may not be sufficient for career advancement. However, there are competing views on the viability of regulatory affairs as a career path and the value of certain certifications.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the current job market dynamics in the pharmaceutical industry, including the impact of outsourcing and the competitive landscape for various roles. There are also unresolved questions about the specific qualifications needed for different career paths.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals currently working in or considering a career in the pharmaceutical industry, particularly those with a background in chemistry or related fields, may find this discussion relevant.

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I am actually working on a pharmaceutical industry and in quality control lab. as an analyst. I have 4 year chemistry bachelor degree. So, my question is what are the possibilities in this area in order to do my career up? If I go into master which qualify and benefit can I gain for myself and company purposes?
What are the extra degrees should I study?
What are the certificates / courses should I go?
What are the chances of my future career opportunities in pharmaceutical industry?
How can I educate myself to prevent from firing (from the firms)?
Does 4 year chemistry degree enough to lift up in the career ladder for future?
 
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Unfortunately, opportunities in Pharma are extremely limited within R and D. The pharma industry was one of the leading fields for layoffs after 2008, and many of those jobs are never coming back again. Tons of R and D work is now offshored to India and China. Tons of other positions in biotech are nothing more than terrible low paying temp gigs that constantly promise permanent employment but end up never coming to fruition. There are insane amounts of competition these days for biological and chemistry position in R and D for pharma because of how many PhDs universities are pumping out coupled with the hordes of scientists that were laid off a few years back. It is not unheard of to get 200+ applications for a scientist position in pharma.

If you are determined to stay within pharma, other ideas that may not sound as glorious, but may have slightly better job stability may be related to regulatory affairs (RA) and compliance watch. It is harder to offshore those fields because you must abide by US law if you are selling drugs in this country. Other certificates/training that may help significantly boost your resume--6 sigma training, GMP knowledge, etc.

There are very specialized scientific fields, however, that seem to have better prospects than a traditional molecular biology, organic synthesis, etc. For example, bioanalytical specialists (people who can identify how drugs are metabolized) always seem to be in demand. Becoming an expert in bioanalytical techniques is not trivial and requires extensive training in cutting edge mass spectrometry technology, extensive training in how to develop new analytical methods from scratch that may have to meet GMP standards, and training in how to accurately perform statistical analyses to identify metabolites or even be able write algorithms to assist in analysis.

A 4 year chemistry degree will not get you very far in pharma unless you get some very lucky breaks. You'll be stuck forever doing lab technician work and/or monotonous, possibly low paying, QA work. I'd suggest looking to take the plunge into the more business side, or the regulatory aspect, or researching the market health of highly trained specialists in analytical fields (which you'll have to go back and train for).
 
gravenewworld said:
Unfortunately, opportunities in Pharma are extremely limited within R and D. The pharma industry was one of the leading fields for layoffs after 2008, and many of those jobs are never coming back again. Tons of R and D work is now offshored to India and China. Tons of other positions in biotech are nothing more than terrible low paying temp gigs that constantly promise permanent employment but end up never coming to fruition. There are insane amounts of competition these days for biological and chemistry position in R and D for pharma because of how many PhDs universities are pumping out coupled with the hordes of scientists that were laid off a few years back. It is not unheard of to get 200+ applications for a scientist position in pharma.

If you are determined to stay within pharma, other ideas that may not sound as glorious, but may have slightly better job stability may be related to regulatory affairs (RA) and compliance watch. It is harder to offshore those fields because you must abide by US law if you are selling drugs in this country. Other certificates/training that may help significantly boost your resume--6 sigma training, GMP knowledge, etc.

There are very specialized scientific fields, however, that seem to have better prospects than a traditional molecular biology, organic synthesis, etc. For example, bioanalytical specialists (people who can identify how drugs are metabolized) always seem to be in demand. Becoming an expert in bioanalytical techniques is not trivial and requires extensive training in cutting edge mass spectrometry technology, extensive training in how to develop new analytical methods from scratch that may have to meet GMP standards, and training in how to accurately perform statistical analyses to identify metabolites or even be able write algorithms to assist in analysis.

A 4 year chemistry degree will not get you very far in pharma unless you get some very lucky breaks. You'll be stuck forever doing lab technician work and/or monotonous, possibly low paying, QA work. I'd suggest looking to take the plunge into the more business side, or the regulatory aspect, or researching the market health of highly trained specialists in analytical fields (which you'll have to go back and train for).

I agree with gravenewworld about the lack of opportunities in R & D opportunities, although much of the outsourcing is actually not to India and China per se but to clinical research organizations (CROs), which are essentially contracting/consulting companies for the pharma/biotech industries (yes, some of these CROs have research labs/offices in India and China as well, but they also hire extensively within the US and elsewhere -- I know, I work in one of these).

However, I disagree about opportunities within RA -- there really isn't that much of an opportunity within that field (since RA departments tend to be rather small in most pharma or biotech companies that I'm aware of), and they tend to require people with backgrounds in clinical research rather than lab tech work. And US-based CROs can often provide RA services to biotech or pharma companies -- there isn't a requirement that RA departments must reside within the same firm, only that there are people available who understand US law and compliance. And I'm dubious as to whether 6 sigma training or GMP knowledge will really be a resume booster, since these training are more often than not mandatory for all pharma workers who work within either R&D or in the clinical field (with GCP being the substitute for GMP for those in clinical research).

To the OP:

I do concur that a 4 year chemistry degree won't get you too far within pharma. If you want to stay within pharma or biotech, my suggestions include the following:

(1) Are you good at writing technical documents? Then consider becoming a medical writer. They are responsible for preparing the key documents like the study protocol, clinical study report, and other technical documents that are required for submissions to the regulatory authorities. There are certificate programs offered in community colleges that offer training, but even that isn't strictly required. Having a strong science background and good communications are all that is required.

(2) If you are willing to go back to school, consider pursuing a pharmacy degree. Certified pharmacists work in various capacities within the pharma or biotech industries and they are always in demand.

(3) Another possibility is to consider becoming a clinical research associate (CRA) -- people who are responsible for co-ordinating clinical trial activities for the pharma/biotech companies. There are certificate programs offered in community colleges that could qualify you in this area, and they are in demand.

(4) How strong are your math skills? Do you have an aptitude for statistics or statistical analysis? Then consider a graduate program in biostatistics (either at the MS or PhD level). I've known people with a background in chemistry pursuing graduate programs in biostatistics and who are working as biostatisticians.

(5) Since you already have a chemistry background, another possibility would be to consider pursuing a second degree or a MS in chemical engineering. Having an engineering degree certification can qualify you in areas like manufacturing which tend to have more opportunities open. Not to mention that it opens opportunities outside of pharma.

(6) What gravenewworld mentioned above about bioanalytical specialists.
 
i really wants to appreciate the answer and for the discussion, i have the same query and now i get a bit idea about it.
 

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