How can I improve my skills in finding general solutions in physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around improving skills in finding general solutions in physics, particularly in the context of an upcoming exam covering the laws of gravitation, shell theorem, and Kepler's laws. Participants explore strategies and approaches to tackle general solution problems, emphasizing the importance of understanding the underlying physics rather than just computational techniques.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on improving their ability to find general solutions, particularly for complex topics like gravitation.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "general" solutions, prompting clarification on the nature of the problems being discussed.
  • A specific example is provided involving gravitational forces between a ring and a sphere, illustrating the type of general solution problems being referenced.
  • One suggestion is to approach all problems as general problems, emphasizing the importance of manipulating equations and variables before substituting numerical values.
  • Concerns are expressed about a lack of foundational knowledge in physics, which may hinder the ability to tackle general solution problems effectively.
  • Practical strategies are shared, including understanding the physics conceptually before applying formulas, using general variables, and testing the effects of changing key variables in equations.
  • Participants discuss the value of simplifying complex problems by reducing variables to make them more manageable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of treating problems as general and manipulating equations, but there is no consensus on the best methods or approaches to improve skills in finding general solutions. Different perspectives on foundational knowledge and problem-solving strategies are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their foundational knowledge in physics, which may impact their ability to engage with general solution problems effectively. There is also a recognition of the need for a deeper understanding of various physics concepts, such as springs and circular motion.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for physics exams, particularly those focusing on general solution problems in topics like gravitation and motion, may find the discussion and shared strategies beneficial.

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Hello, few days ago I took an exam in my honors physics class and believe I did not do as well as I did on the other exam. Last exam had a few computational problems and the rest were general solution problems. This recent exam had 8 questions that were all general solution problems as opposed to the last exam which only had 4 or so. My question is how can I become better at finding general solutions. My next exam is on the laws of gravitation, shell theorem, and Kepler which are much harder topics than previous ones. Any advice or links geared toward general solution problems in these topics?
 
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TimeInquirer said:
Hello, few days ago I took an exam in my honors physics class and believe I did not do as well as I did on the other exam. Last exam had a few computational problems and the rest were general solution problems. This recent exam had 8 questions that were all general solution problems as opposed to the last exam which only had 4 or so. My question is how can I become better at finding general solutions. My next exam is on the laws of gravitation, shell theorem, and Kepler which are much harder topics than previous ones. Any advice or links geared toward general solution problems in these topics?

What do you mean by "general" solutions?
 
I guess I should have explained that before. Here is an example: An object in the shape of a thin ring has radius Z and mass M. A uniform sphere with mass M1 and radius R is placed with its center at a distance x to the left of the center of the ring, along a line through the center of the ring, and perpendicular to its plane. What is the gravitational force that the sphere exerts on the ring-shaped object?

The type of problems that require you to manipulate and relate equations and variables.
 
TimeInquirer said:
I guess I should have explained that before. Here is an example: An object in the shape of a thin ring has radius Z and mass M. A uniform sphere with mass M1 and radius R is placed with its center at a distance x to the left of the center of the ring, along a line through the center of the ring, and perpendicular to its plane. What is the gravitational force that the sphere exerts on the ring-shaped object?

The type of problems that require you to manipulate and relate equations and variables.

My advice would be to treat all problems as general problems (as far as possible): solve them as generally as possible and then plug in the numbers at the end, if that is required. This should help build an understanding of the physics. Even if you are given mass, velocity and angle etc, don't use the numerical values.

What are the most advanced things you can do in general terms? Are you comfortable with general projectile motion, for example? Or, are you only comfortable plugging numbers into equations?
 
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To be honest, I command of those problems is not where I would like it to be only because I did not take a respectable physics class in high school and jumped into honors in college. My weakness in general solution problems is in springs, circular motion, tension, and pendulum motion. I like your idea about treating all problems as general problems.

In regards to computational problems, I don't have much trouble with them. Just small mistakes such as forgetting the negative or whatever but it rarely happens
 
I don't have anything systematic, but here are some things I always do:

1) Try to get the physics of the problem sorted out in your head before you use any formulas. That one you quoted is a good example. Try to work out what happens first. Which way will the ring move? Then move on to trying to get an equation for it.

2) Use general variables where possible.

3) When you get a formula, check what happens if you increase/decrease a key variable (e.g. mass). Does the answer change the way you would expect?

4) If you reduce a variable to 0, does the formula reduce to something that you already know. In your example, if the offset x = 0, then the ring and sphere should be in equilibrium.

5) If you get stuck on a complicated problem, take one of the factors out and try to solve something simpler; then, go back to the more complicated case.
 
@PeroK your advice seems really helpful. Thanks a lot. I hope to update this thread later tonight after I finish my physics problems.
 

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