How can I prove factorial equations involving difficult questions b and c?

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The forum discussion focuses on proving factorial equations related to binomial coefficients, specifically addressing questions (b) and (c). Participants clarify that the equation for (b) is incorrectly stated and should reflect the identity n choose k = n choose (n-k). For question (c), the correct approach involves using the identity n choose k + n choose (k-1) = (n+1) choose k, which can be derived through combinatorial arguments or algebraic manipulation. The consensus emphasizes that factoring is not the appropriate method for these proofs.

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number 15 questions b and c are giving me a very hard time. I have tried expanding them then factoring out the common terms but somehow not getting it to be proven. detailed help will be appreciated.
 

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I don't think factoring is the right answer.
Are you sure that (b) is written correctly? n choose k is equal to n choose (n-k) normally, so I don't see how the sum could be.

For (c), try writing it out and rearranging.

##\frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!} + \frac{n!}{(k-1)!(n-(k-1))!}##
And you want this to be equal to:
##\frac{n+1!}{k!((n+1)-k)!}##

**edit** You should try to make a common denominator to add the fractions. If you do this carefully and correctly, the right answer pops right out.
 
RUber said:
I don't think factoring is the right answer.
Are you sure that (b) is written correctly? n choose k is equal to n choose (n-k) normally, so I don't see how the sum could be.

For (c), try writing it out and rearranging.

##\frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!} + \frac{n!}{(k-1)!(n-(k-1))!}##
And you want this to be equal to:
##\frac{n+1!}{k!((n+1)-k)!}##

**edit** You should try to make a common denominator to add the fractions. If you do this carefully and correctly, the right answer pops right out.
yes b) is written correctly
 
Just to be sure,
(b) says: Show that n choose k + n choose (k-1) = n choose (n-k) ?
That is straight wrong.
n choose k = n choose (n-k). This is clear from the formula factorial representation.
And n choose k + n choose (k-1) = (n+1) choose k, as in (c).
 
tesha said:
yes b) is written correctly

I haven't read your question (since I don't read attachments), but I assume from what RUber has written that you want to show ##{}_nC_k + {}_nC_{k-1} = {}_nC_{n-k}##. As RUber has indicated, that is wrong. Try it for yourself: set n = 4, k = 2 and see what happens.

The several-century-old Passcal triangle formula says that ##{}_n C _k + {n}C_{k-1} = {}_{n+1} C _k##. Again, post #2# shows you one way you can do it; another way is to start from ##(1+x)^n = \sum_{k=0}^n {}_nC_k x^k##, then write ##(1+x)^{n+1}## in two ways: one way is to use the previous expansion with ##n+1## in place of ##n##, and the other is to write it as ##(1+x) (1+x)^n##, use the expansion for the second factor, then gather together powers of ##x##.
 
tesha said:
yes b) is written correctly
From the text before and after b) in the attachment, it is very clear to me that b) ought to read "show that nCk=nCn-k."
 
I wonder if @tesha is still working on this.
If so, then I am sure the correction haruspex suggests will help. That interpretation for (b) will also be reinforced by (d), which looks to be a direct application of that rule.
 

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