How can I rederive this Mathematica result for a complex equation?

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The discussion revolves around deriving a solution for a complex equation involving real parameters. The user is seeking assistance in rederiving a result provided by Mathematica, which states that the solution for x is given by a specific formula. A participant suggests starting by multiplying both sides of the equation and equating real and imaginary coefficients, emphasizing the importance of careful algebraic manipulation. They also caution that errors may arise from confusion between the parameters m1 and m2 or from sign mistakes. The conversation highlights the need for detailed work to identify potential errors in the derivation process.
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Hey all,
I am trying to solve the following equation: $$\left(k-i\frac{m_{1}}{v}\right)^{-1}\Bigg(-i\frac{x}{v}-\frac{\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}}{v}\Bigg) = \left(k+i\frac{m_{2}}{v}\right)^{-1}\Bigg(i\frac{x}{v}+\frac{\sqrt{-x^2+m_{2}^2+k^2v^2}}{v}\Bigg)$$ for ##x## and we can assume ##m_{1},m_{2},k,v## are all real and ##i## is the imaginary unit. Now mathematica tells me that the solution is $$x=\pm\frac{kv(m_{1}+m_{2})}{\sqrt{(m_{1}-m_{2})^2+4k^2v^2}}$$ but I am having trouble rederiving the result. Any advice would be appreciated!
 
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Hey all,
I am trying to solve the following equation: $$\left(k-i\frac{m_{1}}{v}\right)^{-1}\Bigg(-i\frac{x}{v}-\frac{\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}}{v}\Bigg) = \left(k+i\frac{m_{2}}{v}\right)^{-1}\Bigg(i\frac{x}{v}+\frac{\sqrt{-x^2+m_{2}^2+k^2v^2}}{v}\Bigg)$$ for ##x## and we can assume ##m_{1},m_{2},k,v## are all real and ##i## is the imaginary unit. Now mathematica tells me that the solution is $$x=\pm\frac{kv(m_{1}+m_{2})}{\sqrt{(m_{1}-m_{2})^2+4k^2v^2}}$$ but I am having trouble rederiving the result. Any advice would be appreciated!
Without seeing your work there is little we can do to help.

Here's step 1 (as I see it.) Multiply both sides out and equate real and imaginary coefficients.

-Dan
 
$$\left(k-i\frac{m_{1}}{v}\right)^{-1}\Bigg(-i\frac{x}{v}-\frac{\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}}{v}\Bigg) = \left(k+i\frac{m_{2}}{v}\right)^{-1}\Bigg(i\frac{x}{v}+\frac{\sqrt{-x^2+m_{2}^2+k^2v^2}}{v}\Bigg)$$
\begin{align*}
\dfrac{kv+i m_2}{kv-i m_1}&=-\dfrac{ix+\sqrt{-x^2+m_{2}^2+k^2v^2}}{ix+\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}}=
-\dfrac{ix+\sqrt{-x^2+m_{2}^2+k^2v^2}}{ix+\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}}\cdot \dfrac{ix-\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}}{ix-\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}}\\
&=\dfrac{\left(ix+\sqrt{-x^2+m_{2}^2+k^2v^2}\right)\cdot \left(ix-\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}\right)}{m_1^2+k^2v^2}
\end{align*}
\begin{align*}
\left(kv+i m_2\right)\left(kv+i m_1\right)&=\left(ix+\sqrt{-x^2+m_{2}^2+k^2v^2}\right)\cdot \left(ix-\sqrt{-x^2+m_{1}^2+k^2v^2}\right)\\
&\vdots\\
&\text{etc.}
\end{align*}
... until you end up with ##1=1## or ##1=0##. If it was wrong, then very likely due to a confusion of ##m_1## and ##m_2## or a sign error.
 
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