How Can I Solve the Differential Equation for Y in This Formula?

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form (θ_{1}-θ_{2})*exp(r*t) + r*Y = dY/dt. Participants explore methods to isolate Y and express it in a solvable format, focusing on techniques involving exact derivatives and integration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the differential equation and seeks assistance in finding Y, noting difficulties with an extra term when attempting to reverse a product rule.
  • Another participant suggests rewriting the equation to form an exact derivative on the left side, indicating that the left side should resemble the derivative of a product.
  • Further clarification is requested regarding the term "exact derivative" and the subsequent steps to isolate Y.
  • Participants discuss the transformation of the equation into a form involving an exponential function and the implications for integrating both sides.
  • There is uncertainty about how to incorporate the constants θ1 and θ2 into the solution process.
  • One participant confirms understanding of the approach and expresses gratitude for the assistance provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of transforming the equation into a product derivative form, but there is uncertainty regarding the integration process and the placement of constants. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the final expression for Y.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about specific steps in the integration process and the treatment of constants, indicating that assumptions about the nature of θ1 and θ2 may affect the solution.

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I have

(θ[itex]_{1}[/itex]-θ[itex]_{2}[/itex])*exp(r*t) + r* Y = dY/dt

How can I find Y?
I tried to reverse the f ' g +g' f but I keep getting an extra term

Thanks
 
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yamdizzle said:
I have

(θ[itex]_{1}[/itex]-θ[itex]_{2}[/itex])*exp(r*t) + r* Y = dY/dt

How can I find Y?
I tried to reverse the f ' g +g' f but I keep getting an extra term

Thanks

Write it as
[tex]y' - ry = (\theta_1-\theta_2)e^{rt}[/tex] Multiply both sides by e-rt and you should have an exact derivative on the left side.
 
Couldn't quite get it? What do you mean by exact derivative?

so what is y?
 
yamdizzle said:
Couldn't quite get it? What do you mean by exact derivative?

so what is y?

Show us what happened when you followed my advice. The left side should look like the derivative of a product. What did you get?
 
so we have:

exp(-r*t) y' - exp(-r*t) r y = theta1 - theta2

I assume you mean
f = exp(-r*t)
g = y

but I'm not sure how to place thetas

so I think y will have a exp(r*t) in it but not sure about the rest.
 
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yamdizzle said:
so we have:

exp(-r*t) y' - exp(-r*t) r y = theta1 - theta2

I assume you mean
f = exp(-r*t)
g = y

but I'm not sure how to place thetas

so I think y will have a exp(r*t) in it but not sure about the rest.

Yes, so the left side is (e-rty)' so your equation is: [tex](e^{-rt}y)'=\theta_1-\theta_2[/tex] I assume the thetas are constant. So what do you get when you integrate both sides with respect to t and solve for y?
 
Yep, got it.

Thanks
 

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