How Can I Solve This Complicated Partial Differential Equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving a complicated partial differential equation involving a function V(x,y,z) and its Laplacian, with specific boundary conditions and an additional term that complicates the solution. The scope includes theoretical aspects of differential equations and their applications in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a differential equation with a delta function on the right-hand side and questions how to approach solving it, noting the boundary condition that V approaches zero at infinity.
  • Another participant suggests reformulating the equation in spherical coordinates due to the spherical symmetry of the first differential equation, proposing that it could reduce to an ordinary differential equation (ODE).
  • A different participant clarifies that while the first equation has spherical symmetry, the second equation does not maintain this symmetry when the additional term is included, particularly when 'a' is non-zero.
  • There is a discussion about the linearity of the equation, with one participant confirming it is considered linear despite the absence of a term solely in V.
  • One participant challenges the assertion of spherical symmetry, arguing that the delta function is not spherically symmetric since it is only non-zero at the origin.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of spherical symmetry in the context of the delta function and the additional term in the equation. There is no consensus on how to proceed with solving the second differential equation, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity introduced by the additional term and the lack of resources that address the specific class of equations being discussed, which may limit their ability to find solutions.

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I'm having trouble solving an equation. Can anyone help?

There is a function V(x,y,z) such that:
[tex]\nabla^2 V = \delta(x)\delta(y)\delta(z) \frac{q}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
with boundary conditions at infinity V=0.

Since there is spherical symmetry, I was able to rewrite it just in terms of the radial distance, and got:
[tex]\nabla^2 V = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0 r} = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0 \sqrt{x^2 + y^2+z^2}}[/tex]

But now I'm dealing with a system with an extra term:
[tex]\nabla^2 V = \delta(x)\delta(y)\delta(z) \frac{q}{\epsilon_0} - (\partial_x V) \frac{a}{1+ax}[/tex]
a is a constant, and the boundary condition is that V->0 when y or z go to infinity.


I am very rusty with differential equations. Can someone tell me how to attack this?

Also, is this still considered linear since there is no term with just V in it? If I knew what to call this class of equations, maybe I could find some solutions in a table or something.
 
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Hey,

I am not really versed in differential equations myself, so I should apologize beforehand in case my comments are utterly irrelevant to the problem at hand. As you said, the function has spherical symmetry - and therefore, the most sensible thing to do, in my opinion, would be to reformulate the equation in spherical coordinates . Since V = V(r), and you have an explicit expression for the Laplacian operator in polar coordinates, won't this problem simply be reduced into an ODE?
 
Thank you for your reply, but I don't think you read the entire post. The first differential equation has spherical symmetry and I already solved that. The second differential equation reduces to the first in the a->0 limit, but I have no idea how to solve it since when 'a' is non-zero there is no longer spherical symmetry.

I looked it up and this is indeed considered a linear partial differential equation, but I've yet to find a book or table that helps explain how to solve it because most things I find only refer to functions of one variable.

I'm really stumped.
 
JustinLevy said:
I'm having trouble solving an equation. Can anyone help?

There is a function V(x,y,z) such that:
[tex]\nabla^2 V = \delta(x)\delta(y)\delta(z) \frac{q}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]
with boundary conditions at infinity V=0.

Since there is spherical symmetry, I was able to rewrite it just in terms of the radial distance, and got:
[tex]\nabla^2 V = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0 r} = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0 \sqrt{x^2 + y^2+z^2}}[/tex]
No, that's not at all the same thing! You can't use "spherical symmetry" because the right hand side, [itex]\delta(x)\delta(y)\delta(z)[/itex] is not spherically symmetric.

But now I'm dealing with a system with an extra term:
[tex]\nabla^2 V = \delta(x)\delta(y)\delta(z) \frac{q}{\epsilon_0} - (\partial_x V) \frac{a}{1+ax}[/tex]
a is a constant, and the boundary condition is that V->0 when y or z go to infinity.


I am very rusty with differential equations. Can someone tell me how to attack this?

Also, is this still considered linear since there is no term with just V in it? If I knew what to call this class of equations, maybe I could find some solutions in a table or something.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, that's not at all the same thing! You can't use "spherical symmetry" because the right hand side, [itex]\delta(x)\delta(y)\delta(z)[/itex] is not spherically symmetric.
The right hand side is zero everywhere except at the origin. Why do you feel that is not spherically symmetric?

Regardless, do you have any suggestions on how to tackle the other differential equation:
[tex]\nabla^2 V = \delta(x)\delta(y)\delta(z) \frac{q}{\epsilon_0} - (\partial_x V) \frac{a}{1+ax}[/tex]
'a' is a constant, and the boundary condition is that V->0 when y or z go to infinity.
 

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