How Can I Survive Being Homeless Until I Transfer to University?

[leroyjenkens]

The reason for quitting my job is because i have ~ $1000 in savings, and I am planning to transfer to umich next fall, hence i don't need my job.

Whew, a thousand bucks... I was wondering who that new person was on Forbes richest people in the world list.

 

[Mu naught]

Sounds a lot like my mother except I can admit that she's a just a ***** and a garbagety person. Parents always seem to want kids to be grateful for the bad decisions they made in their lives, which are usually labeled "sacrifices".

 

[Upisoft]

I talked to my mom and its very clear that she won't let me stay. She kind of hinted she wanted me out of the house for a month or two. Even if i do get a job now she still won't let me stay.

...yes, I've been living a pipe dream.

Relax, everything will be exactly as it should be.

PS. I'm living in a country a little south of your birth place. While here some parents are brutal, most of them are not. But there are brutal parents everywhere, so do me a favor. Don't ever generalize your experience over whole Eastern Europe. The most brutality I've ever seen was from a big US company I was working for. You are lucky, they don't do such things to people living there.

 

[haxtor21]

Relax, everything will be exactly as it should be.

PS. I'm living in a country a little south of your birth place. While here some parents are brutal, most of them are not. But there are brutal parents everywhere, so do me a favor. Don't ever generalize your experience over whole Eastern Europe. The most brutality I've ever seen was from a big US company I was working for. You are lucky, they don't do such things to people living there.

Agree... I was irrationally unloading when I wrote this. I know what you're talking about though, I left europe 4 years ago.

I hope you're right. Thanks.

 

[JaredJames]

Sounds a lot like my mother except I can admit that she's a just a ***** and a garbagety person. Parents always seem to want kids to be grateful for the bad decisions they made in their lives, which are usually labeled "sacrifices".

It's down to the fact that this woman has done everything she can to give her son a good life. She could have just sat back and done only what is required of a parent, she didn't have to do everything she has to give him a better life.

As it stands, these are good decisions for him and he has clearly been ungrateful towards her.

Yes, a parent is responsible for their decisions, but that doesn't mean the child can act like a complete d*** about everything and take advantage.

 

[JaredJames]

Relax, everything will be exactly as it should be.

You mean he should be kicked out and left to fend for himself with only $1000 (granted it's more than most) and a car.

This is not how it should be. Not by a long shot.

The sad part is that it has taken this action by his mother to make him face reality.

 

[Jack21222]

The mother sounds foolish for leaving a CFO position in Romania for a low-level job in the US. Sounds to me like she regrets her poor judgment and is taking it out on her son, who has no obligation to be grateful for his mother's poor decision-making.

 

[Je m'appelle]

Whew, a thousand bucks... I was wondering who that new person was on Forbes richest people in the world list.

Oh the good ole' sarcasm, oh yes, the sarcasm..

 

[haxtor21]

I am considering cleaning the appt tommorow real well and offering my mom my FAFSA money... ~4000. She will probably refuse but its worth a shot.

I will be having more then just my car and 1000$. I have some money in my paypal account, i have a 1400$ laptop, i have a few LCDs, iTouch, etc. I can sell this stuff if necessary.

I am considering ordering a dell laptop and selling my MBP if this is going to happen. Should I do it now or should I wait a bit?.

My mom wanted to give me a better future in the USA. And I can see why she left and sacriiced for me, but at this point I kind of wish I came here now, when I am 18.

 

[JaredJames]

Don't try to bribe her.

Get a job, prove to her you're working hard at your school work and show her you want to achieve something.

Remember, a parent isn't going to like the idea of their child quitting their job and dropping out of school to effectively 'bum around' for a bit (I know you want to do programming, but look at it from her viewpoint).

Did you have to pay her rent or something? You keep saying you're going to give her money. Does she want money from you or does she just want you to have an income to support yourself (help pay for your 'toys' and education)?

 

[inflector]

PS: Macs suck, if it's worth anything, sell it, buy a cheaper laptop with the same (or superior specs), and spend the $ on something else...also, a lot of programmers won't take a Mac user seriously O_O

Do you know many actual programmers? What could possibly lead you to believe this?

Many serious IT people and programmers use Macs because it runs on Unix and is an excellent OS. The machines are very well built. Much better than a typical Windows machine. If you know Linux then Unix is very easy and vice versa.

The best programmers I know much prefer Unix or Linux machines and most of them use MacBook Pros for their laptop.

I have hired perhaps 50 different programmers over the years and I would never consider having a Mac as a downside. To me, it says you take your computing seriously.

What matters for getting hired is how well you can program and how well you can take directions and work with others.

Trying to get a job programming is a good idea. I worked 30 hours a week during high-school and could have supported myself off the money if I had needed to. It won't hurt you to have a job like this no matter what you end up doing in the future. Offer to do some work at a reduced rate for a week or two in the beginning so that the employer can see what you can do and you might find it easier.

 

[haxtor21]

Yes well that would be wonderfull if i would be at that level. I'm just starting out really. My school pre-occupies most of my time, and I am more of a computer hardware enthusiast, but I realized software is much more interesting and important. Thus I am picking up Java right now and C/++ in the near future; hopefully.

So you had a programming job while in HS? When did u start coding?

 

[General_Sax]

why don't you just get another job and try and move back in with your mom?

say you're sorry and stuff.

P.S. I didn't read the thread

 

[inflector]

Yes well that would be wonderfull if i would be at that level. I'm just starting out really. My school pre-occupies most of my time, and I am more of a computer hardware enthusiast, but I realized software is much more interesting and important. Thus I am picking up Java right now and C/++ in the near future; hopefully.

So you had a programming job while in HS? When did u start coding?

I didn't even really know how to program when I got my first job. I had just read some programming manuals and didn't even have a computer at home. At first I did grunt work, translating some Basic language code from one computer to another. I just looked up the different commands in the two different OS books and got things to work.

I kept that job for 3 years and it helped me immensely with my career from that point onward.

 

[bp_psy]

Eastern Europeans are somewhat stricter than Western Europeans. Far more traditional in their views.

I am actually also a Romanian that emigrated to Canada with my family in my late teens. It may be that some parents are more strict than others but in my experience the connection and support that one can expect from eastern European parents is greater than what is expected in north America.From my own experience and what I saw at my friends (Hungarians,Bulgarians. Ukrainians)parents usually do not expect to leave their home as soon as is the custom here. We usually try to leave as soon as possible but we are not expected to leave before 20-25.I am not telling that this always the case but in general eastern European families are close.

Returning to the op. From what I read in his posts and from what I know about the mentality of Romanian emigrants that left "for the children" ,I think what happened is that this kid was spoiled to much and now has developed an attitude this may be accentuated by the the fact that his father is not around.His mother probably had enough and tries to teach him a lesson.Considering that the guy thinks that he can live on the streets with the money that he made as a lifeguard he will be begging his mother to let him sleep on the floor in a week.

 

[jbunniii]

You should go directly to a mortgage broker, take out a subprime loan to buy a house, and immediately do a cash-out refinance to 110% of the house value, which should give you 10% of the purchase in cash to play with. The more expensive the house, the more you will pocket. Don't worry about your ability to repay the mortgage, you can always refinance if things get tough. This will always be possible because house prices always go up, at approximately 20% per year. And if they ever fall for any reason, you can just default and live rent-free for 2 years or longer until the bank finally gets around to foreclosing.

Sorry, was channeling 2006 for a minute there. Except for the last sentence, which is very 2010.

 

[haxtor21]

he will be begging his mother to let him sleep on the floor in a week.

I don't think so.

 

[haxtor21]

You should go directly to a mortgage broker, take out a subprime loan to buy a house, and immediately do a cash-out refinance to 110% of the house value, which should give you 10% of the purchase in cash to play with. The more expensive the house, the more you will pocket. Don't worry about your ability to repay the mortgage, you can always refinance if things get tough. This will always be possible because house prices always go up, at approximately 20% per year. And if they ever fall for any reason, you can just default and live rent-free for 2 years or longer until the bank finally gets around to foreclosing.

Sorry, was channeling 2006 for a minute there. Except for the last sentence, which is very 2010.

You must be joking right? it went 2 miles over my head.

I was considering living with a roommate if my car gets un-bearable, but this kind of risk really isn't for me right now.

 

[Acuben]

*there was problem with connection so If i double posted...excuse me.

First of all, knowing your citizenship status probably would help us out more. If you have green card or citizenship, nor both makes a huge difference on your strategies- In terms of financial helps or government loans you can get.

In my opinion, you should try anything possible to move back with your mom. This should be your primary concern. Not just for current "survival" but for the long run.
It seems like it's more of a relationship between you and your mother.

but, if you have to live by yourself...
If you haven't transferred yet, working part time and studying part time isn't bad.

either way if you are really tight on budget, consider your health the most important more than anything. If you have to spend money to stay health (by eating healthy, or sleeping in warm places).
It might sound odd to use more money on health while one is one very tight budget, but it is necessary because those living as homeless or tight budgets are more vulnerable to weakening of health. Sleeping in car is fine, but if possible I would try to get a room even if I have to spend the precious money.

 

[haxtor21]

*there was problem with connection so If i double posted...excuse me.

First of all, knowing your citizenship status probably would help us out more. If you have green card or citizenship, nor both makes a huge difference on your strategies- In terms of financial helps or government loans you can get.
Permanent resident
In my opinion, you should try anything possible to move back with your mom. This should be your primary concern. Not just for current "survival" but for the long run.
It seems like it's more of a relationship between you and your mother.
I am scheduled to move out onthe 31st.

but, if you have to live by yourself...
If you haven't transferred yet, working part time and studying part time isn't bad.
right, well at the moment i have full time college and half time High School. The last think i want is to screw up my only hope for a transfer... my community college GPA.

either way if you are really tight on budget, consider your health the most important more than anything. If you have to spend money to stay health (by eating healthy, or sleeping in warm places).
I am considering moving with a roomate for the following winter months. Nov-Dec-Jan maybe.
It might sound odd to use more money on health while one is one very tight budget, but it is necessary because those living as homeless or tight budgets are more vulnerable to weakening of health. Sleeping in car is fine, but if possible I would try to get a room even if I have to spend the precious money.
I agree with you but at this point nerves are starting to rack up, and I have a calc 2 test coming up, and I need to ace it. I really need to keep my gpa and pull off this winter somehow. I hope ill be fine, or my mom will change her mind.

4char

 

[mugaliens]

I know a guy who lived out of his car for two of his four years at Virginia Tech.

He made it.

With a 4.0, an academic scholarship is a cinch. That doesn't mean you'll have a dime for extras, even if room amd board are included, so you'll probably still have to get a part-time job.

Everyone in the world has some kind of burden. It's not the burden you bear, but the way you carry it.

Good luck. :)

 

[Upisoft]

You mean he should be kicked out and left to fend for himself with only $1000 (granted it's more than most) and a car.

This is not how it should be. Not by a long shot.

The sad part is that it has taken this action by his mother to make him face reality.

He left his job despite the wish of his mother. He is 18 years old. Doing so is signaling that he is ready to take the responsibilities of his decisions and he wants to be free. He got the freedom he wanted. It may sound harsh, but it isn't. Freedom always comes with hardship.

 

[Gaius Baltar]

He left his job despite the wish of his mother. He is 18 years old. Doing so is signaling that he is ready to take the responsibilities of his decisions and he wants to be free. He got the freedom he wanted. It may sound harsh, but it isn't. Freedom always comes with hardship.

The above post clearly justifies throwing out your son on the streets. He is 18 years old, he must be very mature, and understand what he is doing completely. WRONG. Throwing out your son over quitting his job? Give me a break.

All I can say is, I'm glad I didnt have you as a parent.

 

[Upisoft]

The above post clearly justifies throwing out your son on the streets. He is 18 years old, he must be very mature, and understand what he is doing completely. WRONG. Throwing out your son over quitting his job? Give me a break.

All I can say is, I'm glad I didnt have you as a parent.

Why it is wrong to give freedom to someone who wants it?

 

[Gaius Baltar]

Thats hardly freedom, that's kicking your son out onto the streets with no where to go, where are the morale values here?

 

[drankin]

He left his job despite the wish of his mother. He is 18 years old. Doing so is signaling that he is ready to take the responsibilities of his decisions and he wants to be free. He got the freedom he wanted. It may sound harsh, but it isn't. Freedom always comes with hardship.

I agree, his mom has standards and if he is going to live off her then he needs to respect her conditions. If he doesn't like it, he can get his own place. Come one, he's 18! Don't be a mommas boy.

Edit: I got camping gear for my 18th bday. LOL

 

[Upisoft]

It is not kicking. It's ending dependency.He got what he wanted.

 

[Upisoft]

I agree, his mom has standards and if he is going to live off her then he needs to respect her conditions. If he doesn't like it, he can get his own place. Come one, he's 18! Don't be a mommas boy.

Edit: I got camping gear for my 18th bday. LOL

I disagree, he is not mommas boy. If he was, there would be no request from her that he get some responsibility within the family by having a job.

 

[alt]

I am considering cleaning the appt tommorow real well and offering my mom my FAFSA money... ~4000. She will probably refuse but its worth a shot.

I will be having more then just my car and 1000$. I have some money in my paypal account, i have a 1400$ laptop, i have a few LCDs, iTouch, etc. I can sell this stuff if necessary.

I am considering ordering a dell laptop and selling my MBP if this is going to happen. Should I do it now or should I wait a bit?.

My mom wanted to give me a better future in the USA. And I can see why she left and sacriiced for me, but at this point I kind of wish I came here now, when I am 18.

I don't think your mother really wants to throw you out. But sometimes, a parent has to take it to the edge to make the point with a head strong and foolish teenager, which you seem to be.

She's achieved much. You've achieved little. She had abundant experience in the world. You have little.

Listen to your mother. Get a job. Grow UP !

 

[JaredJames]

The above post clearly justifies throwing out your son on the streets. He is 18 years old, he must be very mature, and understand what he is doing completely. WRONG. Throwing out your son over quitting his job? Give me a break.

All I can say is, I'm glad I didnt have you as a parent.

Please note there are far more issues than just this, you can either read through the rest of my posts in which I outline them or you can read the OP's other threads where I sourced them.

In response to people regarding freedom:

The OP has expressed clearly that he wants to quit his job and school (temporarily) in order to pursue ventures in programming. I won't go into the details now, see all previous posts by myself. Suffice to say, he is expecting to gain a large degree of freedom, but still wants to live off his mother (as you all point out, he's a big boy now - 18). He has a thousand dollars and believes he can live off that for 6/7 months with no more than a car and laptop.

From what the OP has said here, the mother simply wants him to have a job to support himself (it doesn't seem the mother wants any money from him) and to remain in school and eventually (next year) work to get a degree. This is a very rational viewpoint. The fact the OP has seriously entertained the notion of becoming a big time apps developer within a few weeks;

the idea behind the appstore venture I was planning is the following: If I could learn how to do apps in a relatively short amount of time, come up with a app ideea that people need, develop it and implement it and hopefully become succesfull and continue my schooling with this funding without worry.

with no prior knowledge of the field, and thinks $1000 is enough to sustain himself for a year (thrown out or not) shows you exactly how immature he actually is.