How Can I Survive Being Homeless Until I Transfer to University?

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The thread discusses the challenges faced by an 18-year-old high school senior who is facing homelessness after being asked to leave their home. The participant seeks advice on how to survive until transferring to a four-year university, including managing finances, living arrangements, and dietary choices. The discussion encompasses personal experiences, emotional support, and practical suggestions.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) is considering dropping out of high school and has a plan to transfer to a university while facing homelessness.
  • Some participants express sympathy and share personal experiences of hardship, suggesting reaching out to school authorities or relatives for support.
  • Others challenge the OP's decision to quit their job, arguing that financial stability is crucial, especially with limited savings.
  • Concerns are raised about the OP's proposed diet of bulk nuts and tuna fish, with suggestions for healthier options.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of dropping out of high school on financial aid and college classes being paid for by the school.
  • Participants debate the appropriateness of the OP's mother's actions, with some defending her perspective while others criticize it as harmful.
  • The OP mentions cultural differences in parenting styles, particularly in Eastern European contexts, which complicates the situation.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of safety and well-being, questioning the OP's plans and the potential risks involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express concern for the OP's situation, but there are multiple competing views regarding the mother's actions and the best course of action for the OP. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the OP's understanding of financial responsibilities, particularly regarding car insurance and the use of FAFSA funds. There are also unresolved questions about the OP's living arrangements and the potential for support from relatives.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals facing similar challenges of homelessness, those seeking advice on financial management during transitional periods, and anyone interested in discussions about family dynamics and cultural differences in parenting.

  • #91
Upisoft said:
He left his job despite the wish of his mother. He is 18 years old. Doing so is signaling that he is ready to take the responsibilities of his decisions and he wants to be free. He got the freedom he wanted. It may sound harsh, but it isn't. Freedom always comes with hardship.

Things like relationships, respect, stability are as important as freedom. 18 is not an indicative of maturity. Some people mature earlier, some later.
 
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  • #92
rootX said:
Things like relationships, respect, stability are as important as freedom. 18 is not an indicative of maturity. Some people mature earlier, some later.

The boy seems to think high of his mother. She is the one who knows if he is ready. Apparently she thinks that the little bird may fly out of the nest. Anyway he is old enough to learn what responsibility means. And it seems he does not want to learn it in the family. What do you expect? That she will be responsible for him forever? He must learn that there are consequences of our actions.
 
  • #93
Upisoft said:
She is the one who knows if he is ready.

Why do you think she believes he is ready? She is doing this because of his attitude. His posts in this thread and others show that he isn't making mature, rational decisions. This is her way of giving him a wake up call.

Apparently she thinks that the little bird may fly out of the nest. Anyway he is old enough to learn what responsibility means. And it seems he does not want to learn it in the family. What do you expect? That she will be responsible for him forever?

Have you read the rest of this thread? He has taken steps which are irrational and don't make sense. He has proven continuously that he doesn't grasp what it takes to get on in the real world.

He needs to remain living with her, he needs safety and security. His only other option is to get a (full time) job and then get his own place. Something I don't think he wants to do, or can do effectively with the amount of schooling he is doing.
She isn't try to take responsibility for him, she is trying to get him to have the best chance possible, something his choices aren't helping with and could possibly harm his future potential.

He must learn that there are consequences of our actions.

I agree.
 
  • #94
jarednjames said:
Why do you think she believes he is ready? She is doing this because of his attitude. His posts in this thread and others show that he isn't making mature, rational decisions. This is her way of giving him a wake up call.

Have you read the rest of this thread? He has taken steps which are irrational and don't make sense. He has proven continuously that he doesn't grasp what it takes to get on in the real world.
Yes, I have read the rest and I agree that he is being irrational. Also I agree that he fails to understand the severity of the situation he is in. I don't believe that his mother is not aware of this. Someone called her actions stupid and the boy defended his mother. That action alone tells me a lot about her. She knows what she is doing and the boy needs this cold shower.

jarednjames said:
He needs to remain living with her, he needs safety and security.
Isn't he in US where there is no more crime, as someone was good enough to tell me(in another thread)?
 
  • #95
Upisoft said:
Yes, I have read the rest and I agree that he is being irrational. Also I agree that he fails to understand the severity of the situation he is in. I don't believe that his mother is not aware of this. Someone called her actions stupid and the boy defended his mother. That action alone tells me a lot about her. She knows what she is doing and the boy needs this cold shower.

Completely agree.
Isn't he in US where there is no more crime, as someone was good enough to tell me(in another thread)?

Huh? Who the hell would say that? That is one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in a while. Unbelievable to a rather horrific extent.
 
  • #96
jarednjames said:
Huh? Who the hell would say that? That is one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in a while. Unbelievable to a rather horrific extent.
He's probably misleadingly referring to my post saying that outside of large cities, the majority of the US is relatively safe. Being put in a potentially dangerous situation, like being homeless, obviously increases the chances of being victimized. It's not like you're inside your home in a safe neighborhood. And the OP is in Michigan, a state with very high unemployment and a rather high crime rate, especially the closer you get to a large city.

Also, giving a teenager that has never lived outside his home a 2 week notice to get out is a stupid and reckless decision, no matter how arrogant or clueless the parent might consider the kid might be. If she's to the point where she has lost all hope in him, then she should give him a realistic time frame to get a place. He doesn't have any way to rent a place, winter is coming, Michigan has deadly cold temperatures in the winter, he won't survive in his car, what is he supposed to do?
 
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  • #97
Evo said:
He's probably misleadingly referring to my post saying that outside of large cities, the majority of the US is relatively safe. Being put in a potentially dangerous situation, like being homeless, obviously increases the chances of being victimized. It's not like you're inside your home in a safe neighborhood. And the OP is in Michigan, a state with very high unemployment and a rather high crime rate, especially the closer you get to a large city.
I don't believe it was you who sent a link to a video claiming that high crime rate in US is a myth. It is strange how fast one's myths can become reality to someone else.

Evo said:
Also, giving a teenager that has never lived outside his home a 2 week notice to get out is a stupid and reckless decision, no matter how arrogant or clueless the parent might consider the kid might be. If she's to the point where she has lost all hope in him, then she should give him a realistic time frame to get a place. He doesn't have any way to rent a place, winter is coming, Michigan has deadly cold temperatures in the winter, he won't survive in his car, what is he supposed to do?
He is no longer kid. Let's say he have decided to do something much more stupid, crime perhaps. Who will be responsible, he or his mother? Don't you agree that protecting him(taking the responsibility herself) is the stupid thing to do in this case?

Now, leaving a job is not a crime, but it has consequences. If she leaves her job they will be both outside without place to live in no time. He decided to leave his job and he is facing the same consequences.
 
  • #98
Evo said:
He's probably misleadingly referring to my post saying that outside of large cities, the majority of the US is relatively safe. Being put in a potentially dangerous situation, like being homeless, obviously increases the chances of being victimized. It's not like you're inside your home in a safe neighborhood. And the OP is in Michigan, a state with very high unemployment and a rather high crime rate, especially the closer you get to a large city.

Ah got you, a bit naughty there then with that reference upi.
Also, giving a teenager that has never lived outside his home a 2 week notice to get out is a stupid and reckless decision, no matter how arrogant or clueless the parent might consider the kid might be. If she's to the point where she has lost all hope in him, then she should give him a realistic time frame to get a place. He doesn't have any way to rent a place, winter is coming, Michigan has deadly cold temperatures in the winter, he won't survive in his car, what is he supposed to do?

I completely agree, no parent should ever throw their kids out in such an anger motivated way.
If she really wants him gone, she should give him time to get a place (a reasonable amount of time). The reason I keep on about his attitude is because he needs it drilled into him that the world isn't some easy going place. He's taking things far too relaxed.

I think it's become clear that his attitude is a problem. But instead of trying to offer his mother money to stay, he really needs to change his ways and show her he is trying his best to succeed. Which seems to be what she wants.

EDIT: For the record, I am against this woman throwing her son out, however I think he also needs to understand the reasons why she wants to do so. His attempted solutions so far seem to have culminated into him offering to get a job and pay his mother every penny from it to stay. This doesn't solve the problems between him and his mother.
I'm also curious how long this has been going on for. Is this something that has been brewing over some time and the OP has failed to recognise it? He says she phoned him and asked if he went to work, he said he quit and then she asked him to move out. This just doesn't sound right to me, just like the OP didn't. A missing detail perhaps.
The key for the OP is to recognise what his mother is angry at and then deal with it. Not try to go through with it under a false belief it will all be ok and certainly not to try and bribe his mother.
 
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