How Can I Understand Rotor and Partial Derivatives in Multivariable Functions?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding rotor and partial derivatives in multivariable functions, particularly in the context of a homework problem involving differential forms and vector fields. Participants explore the relationship between these concepts and seek resources for further study.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the concepts of rotor and partial derivatives after missing a lecture and seeks guidance on relevant textbooks.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of the equation du = P(x,y,z) dx + Q(x,y,z) dy + R(x,y,z) dz, noting that it is foundational in differential equations and has integrability conditions that determine the existence of solutions.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to Piaggio's book for methods related to finding solutions, specifically mentioning Mayer's method.
  • There is a reiteration that the discussion of the equation is extensive and may not be suitable for the forum format, implying that a more focused question would be better addressed later.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of the lecture content or the relationship between rotor and integrals in multivariable functions, indicating that multiple views and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks clarity on the definitions and assumptions related to rotor and integrability conditions, which may affect the understanding of the problems presented.

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Homework Statement


Last week we've been doing partial derivatives and I understood all that , but also skipped last lecture.I asked colleague about the lecture and he told me that professor mentioned something about rotor and he gave an example of such and such problem.Anyway here it goes:
1)Prove that the expression (something)dx+(something)dy+(something)dz is a differential of a function and find that function.
2)Find u(x,y,z) if du=(something)dx+(something)dy+(something)dz
You get the picture.
Now I've looked up about the rotor stuff and found it has something to do with vector fields.So I tell that to my friend but he says lecturer didn't even mention anything like that, he says they used integrals on multivariable functions and so on.
Where I can find out more about these types of problems? What to look for in textbooks?
Thanks.

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I don't know what to look for.
 
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Moved thread, as this seems to me to be more of a conceptual question rather than a specific homework question.
 
The equation du = P(x,y,z) dx + Q(x,y,z) dy + R(x,y,z) dz is a key equation and is the starting point for many important topics. You will find the equation described in any book on differential equations. Try Piaggio - an old book, but useful. This equation does not always admit solutions and there are integrability conditions that will tell you when a solution does exist. When solutions exist, there are several methods for finding them. A simple one is called Mayer's method in Piaggio's book.

The discussion of this equation is too long for this forum. You are effectively asking for an entire lecture. If after reading up the material you have more specific questions, those could be tackled here.
 
MarcusAgrippa said:
The discussion of this equation is too long for this forum. You are effectively asking for an entire lecture. If after reading up the material you have more specific questions, those could be tackled here.
+1
 

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