How Can Logarithms Solve for n in This Equation?

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How do I go about solving the following equation for n? From inspection, it seems that this equation is not possible since 2n is always positive so positive + 2= 0 is impossible.

2n+ 2 = 0
 
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If ##n## is supposed to be a real number (or integer) the equation has no solution. But, if ##n## can be complex the equation has solutions.
 
eys_physics said:
If ##n## is supposed to be a real number (or integer) the equation has no solution. But, if ##n## can be complex the equation has solutions.

Ok that makes sense. It is not mentioned that n is a real number. For complex solutions how would I start solving this?
 
vcsharp2003 said:
Ok that makes sense. It is not mentioned that n is a real number. For complex solutions how would I start solving this?
Rearranging the equation, you have
##2^n=-2## or
##2^{n-1}=-1##
Use then the polar form ##z=re^{i\theta}## of a complex number.
 
eys_physics said:
Rearranging the equation, you have
##2^n=-2## or
##2^{n-1}=-1##
Use then the polar form ##z=re^{i\theta}## of a complex number.
So, I would express 2 in polar form and also -1 in polar form.
∴ 2 = 2 e2kπi where k is any integer
and -1 = eπi.

I am not sure what value of k would I take when expressing 2 in polar form since k could be any integer?
 
eys_physics said:
Rearranging the equation, you have
##2^n=-2## or
##2^{n-1}=-1##
Use then the polar form ##z=re^{i\theta}## of a complex number.
I think it might be easier to take original equation so we have 2n= -2, then take ln of both sides and express only -2 in polar form.

Another important idea relating to solving for an unknown in an equation is that when the unknown variable appears in a power, then taking log of both sides can help as a first step to the solution.
In this problem, the unknown n appears in the power, therefore it would be a good idea to take log of both sides as a first step, which is what is done below.

ln(2n) = ln(-2)
n ln2 = ln (2eπi)
n ln2 = ln2 + ln(eπi)
n ln2 = ln2 + iπ lne
n ln2 = ln2 + iπ
n = 1 + i (π/ln2)
 
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