Discussion Overview
The discussion centers around the apparent contradiction of how photons can be massless yet possess energy, as described by Einstein's equations. Participants explore the implications of mass in relation to energy for both massive and massless particles, examining the equations that govern these relationships.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant questions how photons can have energy if they are massless, citing the equation E = mc², which implies zero energy for zero mass.
- Another participant clarifies that E = mc² is only applicable to stationary massive objects and introduces the more general equation m²c⁴ = E² - p²c², indicating that massless objects can have energy if their momentum is considered.
- A third participant reiterates the initial question and emphasizes that the full equation E² = p²c² + m²c⁴ applies to all particles, concluding that for massless photons, the energy equation simplifies to E = pc.
- Another participant highlights the distinction between rest energy and total energy, suggesting that the rest energy equation E₀ = mc² is relevant but only for particles with mass.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the applicability of Einstein's equations to massless particles, with some emphasizing the need for momentum in the energy calculation while others focus on the implications of rest energy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of these equations in the context of massless photons.
Contextual Notes
Some participants note the limitations of applying E = mc² to massless particles and the need to consider momentum in energy calculations. There is also a distinction made between rest energy and total energy, which may affect interpretations.
Who May Find This Useful
This discussion may be of interest to those studying physics, particularly in understanding the relationship between mass and energy, as well as the implications of Einstein's equations for different types of particles.