How can you prove this discrete math induction statement?

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The discussion revolves around proving a statement in discrete mathematics using mathematical induction. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the specific form of the statement and how to approach the proof, particularly with the terms involved.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest using the principle of induction by assuming the statement holds for a specific case and then testing it for the next case. There are discussions about breaking down the summation and reshaping expressions to fit the required form.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various participants offering insights into the induction process. Some guidance has been provided regarding the steps involved, though there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions feeling lost due to differences in examples provided by the professor, indicating a potential gap in understanding the specific application of induction in this context.

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base case: n=1

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im not sure where to start because the examples that my professor showed us did not have a n(n-1) (n+1) but rather (p+1)P=1+1)(2(p+1)+1)

im just very lost in this example
 
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Assume the statement is true for n=m. Add one more term and see if the statement is still true for n=m+1. If it is and also true for n=2, then true for all n...
 
you do this kind of stuff by induction
 
i know its done by induction but i don't know the proper steps to do it.
 
Assume that the statement you have is true. Now add another term (do the sum to N instead of N-1). Add that term to the RHS and see if you can reshape that expression to the same form as it is now, only with N*(N+1)*(N+2)/3 instead. If you can, it must hold true for all N from there on. Then it remains to show that it holds for a sum with just one term.
 
SEngstrom said:
Assume that the statement you have is true. Now add another term (do the sum to N instead of N-1). Add that term to the RHS and see if you can reshape that expression to the same form as it is now, only with N*(N+1)*(N+2)/3 instead. If you can, it must hold true for all N from there on. Then it remains to show that it holds for a sum with just one term.
Personally I don't like re-using the variable N; instead I would use k:
Assume true for n = k:
[tex]\displaystyle \sum_{i=1}^{k-1} i(i +1) = \frac{k(k-1)(k+1)}{3}[/tex]
Prove true for n = k + 1:
[tex]\displaystyle \sum_{i=1}^{(k+1)-1} i(i +1) = ... = \frac{(k + 1)(k)(k+2)}{3}[/tex]

OP: a hint would be to "break up" the summation in the n = k + 1 case.
 

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